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Game 3 NLDS / Cubs @ Dodgers


 


Rich Harden vs.
Hiroki Kuroda
  *5-1, 1.77, 89 K, 30 BB, 71 IP
2008   9-10, 3.73, 116 K, 42 BB, 183.1 IP
  1-2, 6.43, 5 K, 7 BB, 7 IP
Post   (None)
  *NL stats only
     
         
LF
Alfonso Soriano
  SS
#Rafael Furcal
2B
*Mike Fontenot   C
Russell Martin
1B
Derrek Lee
  LF
Manny Ramirez
3B
Aramis Ramirez
  RF
Andre Ethier
C
Geovany Soto
  1B
*James Loney
CF
*Jim Edmonds
  CF
Matt Kemp
RF
Mark DeRosa
  2B
*Blake DeWitt
SS
Ryan Theriot
  3B
Casey Blake
P
*Rich Harden
  P Hiroki Kuroda

 

Our very own Rob G. will be in the stands at tonight's game. Be sure to look for him on the broadcast.

Thoughts on Hiroki Kuroda from "Blue Notes," the L.A. Times blog about the Dodgers:

...when the Japanese import is on, dude typically gets into a serious, sometimes unhittable groove. But he's often the Bizarro-version of that pitcher after the first bit of trouble, more often than not tossing himself further into trouble than figuring a way out of it.

In two starts against the Cubs this year, Kuroda has pitched 15 1/3 innings and allowed one earned run. In other words, we really haven't come across that "first bit of trouble" part.

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Game 2 NLDS / Dodgers @ Cubs


 

SP Chad Billingsley   SP Carlos Zambrano
  16-10, 3.14, 201 K, 80 BB, 200.2 IP  
2008   14-6, 3.91, 130 K, 72 BB, 188.2 IP
  0-0, 0.00, 3 K, 0 BB, 2 IP
Post   0-1, 4.37, 20 K, 6 BB, 22.2 IP
         
SS
#Rafael Furcal   LF
Alfonso Soriano
C
Russell Martin
  SS
Ryan Theriot
LF
Manny Ramirez   1B
Derrek Lee
RF
*Andre Ethier
  3B
Aramis Ramirez
1B
*James Loney
  2B
Mark DeRosa
CF
Matt Kemp
  CF
*Jim Edmonds
2B
*Blake DeWitt
  C
Geovany Soto
3B
Casey Blake
  RF
*Kosuke Fukudome
P
Chad Billingsley   P #Carlos Zambrano

 

It has taken a good 21 hours of self pity and a bracing White Sox defeat to clear my head and even let me think about previewing Game Two.

Yes, last night went down harsh, but from reading Rob's post and many of the ensuing comments earlier this afternoon, it is clear that there are still some optimistic souls in Cubdom. All I can say is, God bless you all.

 

Starters' Records Since 8/1/08

    W  
 L   
IP   
 H/9  
 K/9  
 BB/9  
 ERA  
 HR/9  
 No-Hitters Thrown
Billingsley
5 1
62 10.2 8.1
3.5 3.34 .73 0
Zambrano 2 2 47 8.6 6.5
5.0 7.28 1.80 1

 

Billingsley pitched twice against the Cubs this season. On both occasions, he matched up with Ryan Dempster. Once, Billingsley threw well (7 K, 2 ER in 6 IP); the other time, he threw not as well. The Cubs won both contests.

Among Cub hitters, only Jim Edmonds has more than 10 career plate appearances against the 23-year-old Billingsley, though Fukudome, Lee, and DeRosa have all tagged him for homers.

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Game 1 NLDS / Dodgers @ Cubs


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SP Ryan Dempster
SP Derek Lowe

17-6, 2.96, 187 K,76 BB, 206.2 IP (2008)
14-11, 3.24, 147 K, 45 BB, 211 IP
    (Playoffs)
5-4, 3.34, 43 K, 23 BB, 67.1 IP
LF
Alfonso Soirano SS
#Rafael Furcal
RF *Kosuke Fukudome C
Russell Martin
1B
Derrek Lee
LF
Manny Ramirez
3B
Aramis Ramirez
RF
*Andre Ethier
C
Geovany Soto
1B
*James Loney
CF
*Jim Edmonds CF
Matt Kemp
2B
Mark DeRosa
2B
*Blake DeWitt
SS Ryan Theriot C
Casey Blake
P
Ryan Dempster
P Derek Lowe

 

The calender page flips to October and the Cubs are in the unfamiliar position of being the favorites. Well maybe not the favorites to win it all, I think that honor belongs to the Angels or Red Sox, but certainly the team to beat in the National League. TBS will wax poetic about curses and goats and I'll set the over/under line on a Bartman clip at top of the third. And I'll roll my eyes with each and every mention. 

But here we are, on the cusp of the playoffs with a Cubs team that is as good as many of us have ever seen; on the heels of a season that exceeded even the loftiest of expectations. Is this the team to break the drought? I don't know, but I sure do believe it is. 

As for today's game... 

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Game 161 Thread / Cubs @ Brewers (3 of 3)


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SP Angel Guzman
SP *C.C. Sabathia

0-0, 7.04, 6 K, 4 BB, 7.2 IP (NL)
10-2, 1.78, 121 K, 24 BB, 121.2 IP
       
LF
Alfonso Soirano CF
Mike Cameron
SS
Ryan Theriot
2B
#Ray Durham
1B
Derrek Lee
LF
Ryan Braun
3B
Aramis Ramirez
1B
*Prince Fielder
CF
Reed Johnson
SS
J.J. Hardy
RF
*Micah Hoffpauir RF
Corey Hart
2B
Ronny Cedeno
3B
*Craig Counsell
C
Henry Blanco
C
Jason Kendall
P
Angel Guzman
P *C.C. Sabathia

 

First, Paul Sullivan writes that despite his recent travails (5.40 ERA in September), Jeff Samardzija has made the post-season roster and that Chad Gaudin will likely be a spectator.

As for today's game, Mark DeRosa (calf strain) was hoping to get in a few swings so he didn't have to go into the playoffs cold. Alas, he is not in the starting lineup. Geovany Soto (sore hand) is also sitting.

The Brewers begin play tied with the Mutts for the Wild Card, with a one-game tiebreaker tomorrow at Shea in the teams' futures if things don't get settled today. (As I post this, the Marlins and Mets are waiting out a rain delay at Shea.)

 

"It's not going to matter because, well, it is going to matter but it's not going to matter,"

Translated into English, it means that Lou Piniella decided that Carlos Zambrano would not pitch the first inning or two of today's regular season finale at Milwaukee and Angel Guzman will.

Translated into Sullivanese... Read the rest of this entry>>>

Game 160 Thread / Cubs @ Brewers (2 of 3)


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SP *Ted Lilly
SP Ben Sheets

16-9, 4.17, 180 K, 63 BB, 198.2 IP
13-8, 2.98, 157 K, 45 BB, 196 IP
       
RF
*Kosuke Fukudome
CF
Mike Cameron
SS
Ronny Cedeno 3B
Bill Hall
1B
*Micah Hoffpauir LF
Ryan Braun
LF
*Daryle Ward
1B
*Prince Fielder
CF
Reed Johnson
SS
J.J. Hardy
2B
*Mike Fontenot RF
Corey Hart
3B
Casey McGehee 3B
Rickie Weeks
C
Henry Blanco
C
Jason Kendall
P
*Ted Lilly P Ben Sheets

 

A Brewers win and a Mets loss (Mets currently up 1-0 in the 3rd) and the Brewers would clinch and the Cubs would know their opponent for the NLDS. To honor the occasion, Lou has trotted out the "B" squad. The game should be on Fox for most of the country I believe.

Game 159 Thread / Cubs @ Brewers (1 of 3)


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SP Ryan Dempster
SP Jeff Suppan

17-6, 2.99, 183 K, 75 BB, 201.2 IP
10-10, 5.06, 85 K, 66 BB, 172.2 IP
       
LF
Alfonso Soriano
CF
Mike Cameron
2B
*Mike Fontenot
2B
*Ray Durham
1B
Derrek Lee
LF
Ryan Braun
3B
Aramis Ramirez
1B
*Prince Fielder
RF
*Micah Hoffpauir SS
J.J. Hardy
C
Geovany Soto RF
Corey Hart
CF
*Jim Edmonds
3B
*Craig Counsell
SS
Ryan Theriot
C
Jason Kendall
P
Ryan Dempster
P Jeff Suppan

 

The Cubs continue their Spoiler Tour 2008 and will do their best to knock out their division rivals. The only thing that probably really matters for the Cubs is that the races are still undecided on Sunday as the Phils, Brewers and Mets have their aces scheduled. Meaning if they have to use them, they won't be able to go again until Game 2 at the earliest and possibly not until Game 3 of the NLDS. Of course if the Brewers end up winning the wild card, none of that will matter to the Cubs either as they'll see the Dodgers and Derek Lowe in Game 1.

As for personal goals, Dempster goes for win number 18 and will try to keep his ERA under three for the season and Geovany Soto is looking to match or pass up Billy Williams Cubs rookie record of 25 home runs - Soto is at 23.

Game 158 Thread / Cubs @ Mets (4 of 4)


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SP Rich Harden
SP Pedro Martinez
(NL)
5-1, 1.66, 85 K, 25 BB, 65 IP
5-6, 5.50, 78 K, 40 BB, 103 IP
       
LF
*Felix Pie
SS
#Jose Reyes
SS
Ryan Theriot LF
*Daniel Murphy
1B
*Micah Hoffpauir 3B
David Wright
CF
*Jim Edmonds
1B
*Carlos Delgado
2B
*Mike Fontenot
CF
#Carlos Beltran
3B
Casey McGehee
RF
*Ryan Church
RF
*Kosuke Fukudome
2B
Ramon Martinez
C
#Koyie Hill
C
Robinson Cancel
P
*Rich Harden
P Pedro Martinez

 

The Cubs play their last-ever regular season game at The House That Jesse Gonder Built. In 44 years of play at Shea (the Mets played their first two years in the Polo Grounds), the Cubs have a 146-164 record.

Mark DeRosa and his strained calf muscle will enjoy tonight's game from the bench. Rich Harden makes his first-ever start against the Mets and Pedro Martinez, who is making his first start against the Cubs in 11 years, when he was still with the Expos.

A Cub win will give the team 97 wins for the first time since 1945.

WIth last night's extra-inning battle taxing the Mets' bullpen, Jerry Manuel has said he would consider using starter John Maine out of the pen tonight if/when he has to lift Pedro, who has only won twice in his last 11 starts.

I can't wait for all of these exhibition games to end so we can get down to real baseball.

Game 157 Thread / Cubs @ Mets (3 of 4)


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SP Carlos Zambrano
SP *Oliver Perez

14-6, 3.77, 128 K, 68 BB, 184 IP
10-7, 4.10, 168 K, 97 BB, 184.1 IP
       
LF
Alfonso Soriano
SS
#Jose Reyes
SS
Ryan Theriot LF
*Daniel Murphy
1B
Derrek Lee
3B
David Wright
3B
Aramis Ramirez
CF
#Carlos Beltran
RF
Mark DeRosa 1B
*Carlos Delgado
CF
Reed Johnson
RF
*Ryan Church
2B
Ronny Cedeno
C
*Brian Schneider
C
Henry Blanco
2B
#Argenis Reyes
P
#Carlos Zambrano
P *Oliver Perez

 

After a lifetime spent listening to ballgames on the radio, I have come to associate certain parks with a certain tone, a certain pitch in the crowd sound. Obviously, my ear is well attuned to the way that Wrigley Field crowds come across on-air. Same with Dodger Stadium, Fenway Park, and the Metrodome. (Loved hearing all those Twins fans Tuesday night!)

Shea Stadium is another one of those parks. Unlike what you hear over the radio from those other parks, however, the crowd sound that goes out over the airwaves from a raucous Shea isn't one of collective joy. It's much more coarse, much more dangerous, a wild, unruly roar—like the sound of inmates rooting on two guys aiming to shank each other in the middle of the yard.

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Game 15...oh whatever, who cares?


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SP *Johan Santana
SP *Sean Marshall

14-7, 2.65, 187 K, 58 BB, 217.1 IP
3-4, 3.62, 50 K, 19 BB, 59.2 IP
       
SS
#Jose Ryes
LF
Alfonso Soriano
2B
#Luis Castillo SS
Ronny Cedeno
3B David Wright
1B
Derrek Lee
CF
#Carlos Beltran CF
Reed Johnson
1B
*Carlos Delgado 2B
Mark DeRosa
C
Ramon Castro 3B
Casey McGehee
RF
*Ryan Church RF
*Kosuke Fukudome
LF
Nick Evans
C
Henry Blanco
P
*Johan Santana
P *Sean Marshall

 

You'd think Lou would let his regulars get some hacks against Johan, since they may see him in the first round, but he seems to have gone the opposite route and sits most some of his regulars. Curious.

The Cubs want to try and take 2 of 3 or at least 1 of 3 from the Mets and hope the Brewers take 2 of 3 from the Pirates or sweep them. That would set up a tie between the Mets and the Brewers heading into the final weekend and increases the odds of them having to use their aces (C.C. or Johan) late in the season. That's more of a concern with the Mets when it comes to the Cubs playoff situation, but the more innings C.C. racks up now, the better chance he'll be less effective by the time the Cubs may face him in the playoffs. The Cubs also need to win 5 of 6 for 100 wins assuming the Monday make-up versus the Astros is not played.

Game 155 Thread / Cubs @ Mets (1 of 4)


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SP *Jon Niese
SP Jason Marquis

1-0, 4.09, 9 K, 6 BB, 11 IP
10-9, 4.39, 87 K, 65 BB, 160 IP
       
SS
#Jose Ryes
LF
Alfonso Soriano
LF
*Dan Murphy
2B
Ronny Cedeno
3B David Wright
1B
Derrek Lee
1B *Carlos Delgado
3B
Aramis Ramirez
CF
#Carlos Beltran
C
Geovany Soto
RF *Ryan Church
RF
Mark DeRosa
2B
#Luis Castillo
CF
Reed Johnson
C
*Brian Schneider SS
Ryan Theriot
P
*Jon Niese
P *Jason Marquis

 

Remember when we were all mortified by the schedule and the impending final road trip to New York and Milwaukee? Good times. Now it's nothing more than a really expensive scouting trip and a chance to play spoiler. Looking at the Mets lefty heavy lineup makes it look like Ted Lilly could be a key contributor in a possible playoff series and that Sean Marshall would make the playoff roster if we play them down the road. 

Speaking of spoiler, the best case scenario for the Cubs is that the races stay close until Sunday or possibly extend into tie-breakers so the teams are forced to use their aces late in the season and can't arrange their rotations the way they like. For example, Johan Santana is scheduled to start tomorrow and then again Sunday. Let's say the Cubs take three of four from the Mets and the Brewers can scrap together two of three from the Pirates. They'll be tied heading into the weekend and the earliest either could clinch is Saturday then and more likely Sunday, if not later.

Sit back and enjoy some tension-free baseball, although the Cubs do need a win or a Phillies loss to secure homefield advantage.

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