NL Central Smackdown : Right Fielders

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I'll save the left fielders for Monday since it's a pretty and talented group. Your right--field warriors after the break...

Player 3-Year Warp-3 Average
3 Year Warp-3 Projection
Rob's Ranking
Kosuke Fukudome N/A 3.37 2
Corey Hart 4.5 (2 years) 5.6 1
Skip Schumaker 1.5 (1 year) 1.43 6
Ryan Ludwick 2.7 (1 year) 1.97 6
Hunter Pence 6.4 (1 year) 5.43 4
Ken Griffey Jr. 4.47 1.77 3
Xavier Nady 2.63 1.93 5


 

 

 

 

 

 


The Justification: I think I sold Hunter Pence short on this one before I looked at the numbers. I just thought he was more useful as a center fielder and a little hacktastic for my tastes. Griffey Jr. probably deserves the top spot as a lifetime achievement award and if you think he can stay healthy, he probably still deserves it. Honestly, any of the top four are probably worth the top spot and when Rick Ankiel gets shifted back here, he'll make it even a little more interesting. But I took Hart for now, a rather successful 2007 campaign and youth on his side. I just didn't know what to expect out of Fukudome, and while the early returns are fantastic, he won't be able to keep his offensive numbers up averaging a homer a month. Nady's had a nice start to the season, but we all know he'll fade and the Cards platoon is just a placeholder until Colby Rasmus is ready and Ankiel gets shifted back.

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This is very tough; really a close grouping and alot of moving parts.

I ranked as the following:

Fukudome (homer vote, but he is a 4-tool player)
Hart (slow start though)
Nady
Pence (would be higher, except for slow start; based on last year, he could be #1)
Griffey (Fading fast)
Cards (They are hitting great, but I hate platoons)

Tough one for me. I went Fukudome, partly out of homerism, then Pence, Hart, Nady, Cards, and Griffey.

I take Hart over the lot at this point, then Fuku, Pence, Griffey, Nady, Cards. Hart is young and is already a pretty complete hitter, plus I think he handles CF at least as well as Pence and Fuku. Pence has the best chance of being a real superstar, but he also seems most likely to flop due to his hacktastic approach. Fuku gets second based on defense and plate discipline. Griffey would be tops if he weren't such an injury risk and if he weren't so old and more expensive than the rest.

Nady doesn't seem all that valuable any more, but maybe that's just me.

is his lack of power concerning to anyone else? The bill of goods we got when he was signed was that he'd be good for at least 15 and probably 20 homers a year. He's got good gap power but the weight shift in his swing, in my mind, keeps him from putting more power in his swing. Anyway, I hope he starts hitting for a bit more power soon, as we need it out of our #5 hitter.

I'd be more concerned if he wasn't on pace to hit 50+ doubles. I'll take 50 doubles and a .400+ OBP out of my 5th hitter any day, especially when he has DeRosa and Soto hitting behind him.

Yep. Not concerned. There are other ways to win besides Chadball.

Hey! 50 doubles is Chadball through and through!

50 doubles isn't Chadball!

No steroids, no homeruns, no watching the ball exit the park followed by cocky strutting around the bases. No boombox in the locker room annoying everyone else.

I think Fuku is a few hat size short of Chadball.

Sorry pal, but I'm the authority on Chadball. And 50 doubles is Chadball material. Chad likey the slugging percentage. last year when DLee wasn't hitting the ball over the fence but bouncing them off of it, I was totally ok with that. Walks and singles as your offensive set is not Chadball but Mark Grace was.

personally, i didnt expect more than 15-20 homers at best.

however, i do/did expect him to get 40-50 doubles.

i expected him to K 100-120 times and though i knew he'd walk im personally impressed by how many so early.

to make a sloppy comparison...i pretty much expect mark grace in his prime at the plate (with more Ks and a touch more speed).

Vorare: Exactly! Soto hitting behind Fuku is brilliant, and I hope it continues.

Fuku is still adjusting to a lot of pitching he has never seen, and his contact style is unique. He pulls off the ball much more with two strikes on him. He gets into the two-strike situation because he is taking pitches in an attempt to see more (whether that is patience or just feeling out the pitcher, I don't know). The great thing is that he isn't afraid to hit with two strikes, and he's a damn good hitter in that situation. He is Ichiro with more power, and a slightly lower average due to his slower top speed. I see Ichiro leg out a lot of those infield singles which drives his average from the .320-.330 range to the rarefied air he has been privy to the last few seasons.

Identical to Rob's. A year or two ago Jr might have been top of the list, but not now.

I'm reading over other people's votes and I feel I should say it really pained me to vote Corey Hart first. He's a douche.

Me too, though I have nothing against Hart personally, I just can't stand the fact he plays for the Brewers. Is there some more specific reason you call him a "douche"?

wonder what theyre working on with him...

another day and no play.

a trade?

whoops.

He's in there tonite, batting third.

2 for 2 as the DH.

weird...they had Kroeger DH as the DH, now its murton on milb.com

sweet.

Gagne blows a two-run lead in the ninth in Houston to send it into extras. Go 'Stros.

this time a 6-4 lead in HOU. I guess the Brewers closer will be David Riske pretty soon.

A. Soriano lf
R. Theriot ss
D. Lee 1b
K. Fukudome rf
M. DeRosa 3b
G. Soto c
M. Fontenot 2b
R. Johnson cf
J. Marquis p

because with this line-up it makes alot of sense, with Reed's good OBP and Marquis being a solid hitter.

the lineup's full of ob% guys...why let the pitcher move up a slot to replace a far better hitter?

and though i can understand not using cedeno today the guy should get some starting time one day...maybe.

...AND END THIS SORIANO BATTING 1ST CRAP. and stuff...

we got a RBI guy missing (aram) and we got a powerhitter looking to cash in the 7/8/9 hitters.

I think he has more hits today aganist Santana and the NLDS last year then he did his entire Cubs career.

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- Chicago Bears running back Cedric Benson failed a sobriety test while operating a 30-foot boat, then resisted arrest before being hit with pepper spray and dragged ashore by officers.

woo.

Well I thought the Bears had a foolproof protocol for this kind of situation...

Why didn't he just dive into the water, dial 911 and tell the police that his boat was stolen?

Jeez.

with Prince trying to get a foul pop-up.

to complete the sweep of the Brew Crew.

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  • ...and the Bryant RBI jinx continues in the 3rd....crap.

    billybucks 20 min 6 sec ago view
  • bryant's in the dugout filling a police report BECAUSE HE JUST GOT ROBBED.

    f'n cabrerra...

    crunch 57 min 35 sec ago view
  • chapman showing up and available tomorrow night.

    i'm sure he'll be a bit hit. hope he doesn't choke. dude has a rifle for an arm. he'll add a bit of punch to the bullpen.

    crunch 58 min 40 sec ago view
  • the 'crosstown classic' sure has lost it's magic with interleague. the excitement level is barely noticable...maybe it's a bit more hype in the city, itself.

    crunch 1 hour 3 min ago view
  • Well he didn't leave a mark so its not that bad.

    Fuck that.

    Facts:

    He choked her.

    Her brother tackled him to separate him.

    He cooled off by shooting his gun in the garage.

    I don't have to like him on the team I follow.

    And you are others are free to not give a shit about his personal misgivings if you so choose as well.

     

     

    Rob G. 1 hour 21 min ago view
  • Sure, no marks and some inconsistencies in the witness's statements. But firing your gun into garage wall immediately after an argument and punching out your car window is still threatening and out of control behavior. There was certainly enough for MLB to think it warranted a 30-game suspension.

    Charlie 2 hours 33 min ago view
  • I'd prefer they be flexible with the closing situation depending on matchups. You're not really adding a lefty reliever if you use him strictly as a closer.

    Charlie 2 hours 33 min ago view
  • Stockpiling young talent isn't only for trading for someone like Chapman though. Even with an elite closer winning the World Series is basically a crap shoot so the key is to get to the playoffs as much as possible and not just mortgage everything on one year. Once you get there an elite bullpen certainly helps but the playoffs can be won by one hitter or starting pitcher getting hot (Murphy, Molina, Baumgardner) and a closer might not be able to stop that.

    johann 2 hours 57 min ago view
  • I'm also not crazy about press convictions. As the police report noted, there were no marks on the lady in question. There's a TMZ link (of course) to her police pictures, as well.

    I think the only way this trade goes real bad is if Cubbery intervenes and Chapman is suddenly bad for some reason.

    Old and Blue 3 hours 1 min ago view
  • I am right there with you closing in on 60.

    I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.

    There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.

    Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.

    I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.

    The E-Man 4 hours 30 min ago view
  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 4 hours 38 min ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 4 hours 50 min ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 4 hours 52 min ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 5 hours 14 min ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 5 hours 14 min ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 5 hours 23 min ago view