Dusty Baker—Doing It for the Kids

According to the Cincinnati Enquirer, Dusty Baker may juggle the Red Legs' pitching rotation heading into next week's visit to Wrigley Field.

The Reds have an off-day Monday, which would normally cause them to skip fifth starter Josh Fogg's turn. But Baker is considering having Fogg take his turn Wednesay, following Aaron Harang on Tuesday, which would have the effect of giving Baker's two young, stud pitchers--Edinson Volquez and Johnny Cueto--an extra day's rest.

"We might try to reconfigure to do that," Baker said. "It's not going
to hurt Cueto and Volquez to lighten their load early to keep them
strong late. They're going to be making 10, 11 more starts minimum -
more if we get to the playoffs - than they've ever thrown."

(Insert your own ironic interpretation here.)

On a related note, this headline from The Onion sports section:

Dusty Baker On Rookie Ace: 'Mwahahahahaaaaa'

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Comments

On a completely unrelated note, is it wrong for me to be amused by this?

"Tampa Police arrested Tampa Bay Rays pitcher Al Reyes early this morning, saying the reliever was drunk and disruptive after falling down, picking a fight and spitting blood at the patrons of a popular Hyde Park night spot...the officer tased Reyes, knocking him to the bar floor. Ignoring police commands to stay down, authorities said Reyes got up and was Tased a second time."

http://blogs.tampabay.com/rays/2008/04/reyes-slugg...

No, not wrong at all.
Relief pitcher tased once = funny.
Relief pitcher tased twice = hilarious.
The "spitting blood at patrons" part is just a comic bonus.

I thought so. Thanks for the clarification.

DON'T TASE ME BRO!!!

And that calls for this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0KmjqabDUU

Not a rick-roll.

Sorry if 3/44, but the Twins sent over Doug Deeds as the PTBN in the Monroe trade.

.291 career hitter who hit .243 last season in AAA.

So much for getting Lahey back in return.

http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/christensen/2008/...

The best part of that link is the first comment, from a Twins fan:

"cant we just give them monroe back?"

And another Twinkie fan gives a makeshift scouting report on Mr. Deeds...

"Anyway, I liked Deeds. He had a very good 2005 season at AA and then had to repeat the level. He does a little of everything without doing anything great. Hits for OK average, with decent on-base skills and some power. Plays a couple of positions (RF/1B) adequately. This is fair return for the PTBNL."

Does anybody else think the Cubs lost a lot of value in getting mediocre-to-awful players last year?

Michael Barrett to SD for Rob Bowen
Rob Bowen and Blevins to Oakland for Kendall

Scott Moore and Rocky Cherry to Baltimore for Steve Trachsel

Clay Rapada (PTBNL) to Detroit for Craig Monroe

Getting Lahey back for Monroe would've been nice to offset some of that young talent we lost.

Rapada and Blevins both appear to be better lefty relievers than we have in the system right now, Scott Moore would've been nice depth waiting in AAA or could've been packaged for something valuable, and Rob Bowen turned out to be a lot better than he played while in Chicago.

While Bowen put up a .065/.097/.167 line for the Cubs in 31 ABs, he went on to Oakland to hit .279/.415/.442. While with the Padres he had hit .268/.371/.439. Meanwhile, Kendall hit .270/.362/.356 for the Cubs while playing comparable defense (not bad, actually). However, a combination of Bowen and Soto for in the time that Kendall was playing would've likely proved MUCH more productive than Kendall and wouldn't have required us to pay much salary or to give up Blevins.

What about Monroe? He hit .204/.291/.347 in 49 ABs for the Cubs. I don't care what side of the plate you bat from, that is terrible, and it's nothing that Pie and Fuld couldn't have done while also playing significantly better defense. We gave up Clay Rapada for that?

Moving on to Trachsel. In 4 total games with the Cubs, Trachsel won one game and lost three while posting an ERA of 8.31. He took Marshall's rotation spot, who had half the ERA. In fact, I'd be willing to bet Cherry could've posted an ERA under 8 in 4 starts. Meanwhile, Moore is providing left-handed pop off the bench for the Orioles and has played three infield positions. The guy doesn't have a ton of value, and neither does Cherry, but Trachsel appears to me actually have had negative value.

Oh, and Trachsel and Monroe failed to make the playoff roster while Kendall was pushed into a backup role.

Last season's in-season trades were not very good, and it looks to me like the reveal a GM who really undervalues his own young players.

By the way, Doug Deeds is an outfielder/first baseman who will turn 26 this June. He's a lefty hitter who has never hit more than 16 homeruns and isn't much of a base stealer. Why didn't Hendry at least hold out until he knew whether the Twins will even get Lahey back?

Kendall hit .270/.362/.356 for the Cubs while playing comparable defense (not bad, actually).

Haha... since when did Kendall play "not bad" defense?

I meant "not bad" in reference to the offensive numbers. Nice catch though (no pun intended?). His defense was actually equally as bad as Bowen's and probably as bad as Barrett's.

Don't forget Paul Bako is tearing up the league also.

Maybe Rapada and/or Blevins turn out to be decent LOOGY's, but overall, the guys we gave up were spare parts, at best, with the exception of Barrett, who had deteriorated here to the point he had to be dumped for anything.

Moore and Cherry aren't likely to be anything special.

As for adding Trachsel and Monroe, I wasn't thrilled with the moves but I understand what Hendry was trying to do, add experienced vets for the stretch drive. Sure, in hindsight Pie or Fuld could have put up Monroe's miserable numbers, but Monroe hit 28 hr and 92 rbi the year before, something Pie or Fuld will never do.

I don't think we lost anthing at all. And hindsight is 20/20. Monroe could have went on a roll like Randall Simon did a few years ago, you just never know. But you can't get a spark to put you over the top if you don't try.

We did win the division last year, right? Just checking...

Kendall had one great month for us and when he struggled again in Sept he got benched. Monroe for Rapada? Rapada can't even crack the Tigers awful bullpen right now.  Moore, Renshaw and Cherry for Trax? Yeah, that was dumb, but once again, no one we'll ever miss.

None of the talent we gave up was crucial or will ever be... 

I would think that Lahey was never part of the Monroe discussion or something is happening in the waiver process that we don't know about yet. I believe the deal had to be completed by Opening Day or close to it. Vaguely recall reading that...

Not that this validates my point of view at all, but, coincidentally, the Tigers just recalled Rapada from AAA.

So, it's just me.

When you trade away crap, you're going to get crap back.

Barrett was damaged goods, and Bowen was a short term band-aid. Kendall at least was a plausable starting catcher, and if he played in Chicago last year like he is playing in Milwaukee so far this year this would be a very different conversation.

And don't forget, the Cubs also got a First Round draft pick out of that deal.

Monroe was a gamble to have a little extra pop off the bench during a playoff chase and have a righty who could play CF - much like the role that Reed Johnson is playing. The cost was a marginal pitching prospect. Getting anyone back in a second trade was just an extra.

The Trachsel move was just kind of stupid, but more because it moved Marshall out of the rotation than because a couple of very marginal players were lost.

They're going to be making 10, 11 more starts minimum - more if we get to the playoffs - than they've ever thrown

er, Dusty,
Cueto made 28 starts last year, Volquez made 29

Their arms are gonna fall off!!

Dusty doesn't believe in looking at numbers, especially not before speaking to the press. I'm not sure if that's not old-school enough for him or if it is too small ball...

Did Dusty have Darren sitting in his lap for protection, as he did for press conferences after particularly ugly Cubs games?

Doesn't particularly affect us, but this story is funny...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=334165...

I'm not particularly versed in voodoo ritualism, but wouldn't it be more effective to enshrine the shirt in the foundation of the Yankee's clubhouse?

still 50-60% chance of showers and T-storms tonight...

With an off-day Monday wouldn't hurt out starting staff much if we had to play a double-header this weekend.

Dude,

with all the innings our pen has had to put in due to the extra innings games, a double header is exactly what the Cubs DON'T need.

they didn't go through too many yesterday and they'd get Friday and Monday off...doesn't seem too worrisome to me.

I would love to contribute to the web site, but I'm old school and do not put my credit card on the internet. Is there any other way to make a donation.

I would love to contribute to the web site, but I'm old school and do
not put my credit card on the internet. Is there any other way to make
a donation.

Drop me an email and we can figure out something.

http://www.thecubreporter.com/user/2/contact

 

Brilliant.

Funny!!

Oops, gotta go my mom is calling me upstairs.

Shoot, me too. Johann's mom is calling me upstairs.

That's one of the funniest things I've ever read. Thanks for posting the link!

Those guys are in actuality writers for TV shows out in LA - wonder which ones, since they put out some funny stuff.

one of them writes for "The Office" i know...

That makes sense - same sensibility. I was wondering about "30 Rock" as well - maybe "Family Guy?"

So when are we planning on realizing that Marquis stinks and Leiber is a far better option as a starter...I know we have won so far this year...but our starting pitching looks like its going to be our weak link.

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  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 1 min 23 sec ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 13 min 7 sec ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 14 min 56 sec ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 37 min 15 sec ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 37 min 43 sec ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 46 min 32 sec ago view
  • Here are some possible corresponding minor league moves we might see in the aftermath  of the Chapman trade: 

    SOUTH BEND to MYRTLE BEACH: OF Donnie Dewees and INF Bryant Flete  

    EUGENE to SOUTH BEND: OF Robert Garcia and INF Vimael Machin 

    There is really no reason to replace Billy McKinney at Tennessee because both Chris Coghlan and Jorge Soler are doing their rehab at Tennessee.  

    And there are plenty of pitchers at Iowa. No need to replace Warren at AAA. .  

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 6 min ago view
  • I am 70 years old. The Cubs last played in the World Series in 1945. I was born in 1946. I hate to lose a prospect like Torres, but when the opportunity is there to get that World Series ring, you go for it. This was the idea in stock piling all this young talent. I would like to see Reddick added now and the Cubbies should be done.

    Hagsag 1 hour 37 min ago view
  • I would expect Richard to accept an optional assignment because based on how he's played this season, there is a decent chance that he won't find work elsewhere. Rather stay and potentially get a ring. Same goes for Coghlan since he's struggled mightily this year.

    Edwards should not go down. He's pitched very well and Maddon is very impressed with him. I would expect Grimm to go down for Cahill so he can get back on track (he's pitched better in July, but he's not getting enough appearances).

    chitownmvp01 1 hour 40 min ago view
  • chitownmvp01: Indeed Clayton Richard would seem to be odd man out once Chapman reports, but Richard might accept a minor league assignment if he is promised a return to Chicago on 9/1 when MLB Active List rosters expand (Richard has minor league ioptions left).

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 43 min ago view
  • The only player in the deal that would cause me a second thought is Gleyber Torres.

    McKinney and Crawford are decent prospects but both are redundant/replaceable in the system and Warren was really only a middle-reliever or #6 starter, so to me it's really just Torres for Chapman.

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 4 min ago view
  • There is no Comp pick for players traded mid-season. 2+ months of Chapman is it.

    mbauer 2 hours 6 min ago view
  • to get one of the best you have to give up one/some of your best...but it's a bit painful to watch the system's best prospect walk for any 2-3 month rental, especially one that's not an everyday player.

    crunch 2 hours 8 min ago view
  • I assume Chapman will replace Richard on the roster, but who goes down when Cahill gets activated? Maybe Grimm?

    And when Soler and Coghlan get healthy, how do they fit them on the roster when they're ready to be activated?

    chitownmvp01 2 hours 12 min ago view
  • We are giving up a lot, but it's not like we're trading Addison Russell for 2+ months of Jason Hammel. When impact players become available, they are going to cost you. The other bids could also have been high.

    Having Chapman as a rental is potentially less disruptive than having him come in with an extension in place. 

    CTSteve 2 hours 13 min ago view
  • Billy McKinney had season-ending knee surgery last August and came to Minor League Camp this year somewhat restricted. (He was used mostly as a DH in Cactus League Minor League Camp games), and I'm not sure he's 100% right now (he's repeating AA, and his XBH numbers are way down, like he's not getting good rotation in his lowev half). That might have been part of the reason why the trade wasn't completed right away.

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 21 min ago view