Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up

Baseball's fourth season is about to warm up and I'll try and summarize all the gossip every couple of days.

- Ken Rosenthal says that Ryan Dempster won't sign with the Cubs before the Cubs exclusive negotiating window closes on November 13th. A rather wise move by him and his agent. There's no reason not to test the waters and see what is actually available for him as rival teams cannot discuss money over the next two weeks. He still may very well sign with the Cubs on a hometown discount, but that discount will be based on what the prevailing market is offering. Rosenthal speculates a four year deal for Dempster with the Cubs interested in three years. Rosenthal also speculates that if the Cubs cannot resign Dempster, they'll up their efforts on Jake Peavy, which sounds like a grand plan to me.

- Bruce Miles at The Daily Herald says Jim Hendry is ready for the GM meetings this week.

"This isn't a club that needs an overhaul," Hendry
insisted. "It's a 97-win club that just played very poorly for three
games in the postseason. When things settle in and a few weeks go by,
it's not like you need 15 new guys.

"You want to add three or four more guys or shuffle the
deck a little bit. It's the nature of the game. You make roster
changes. People come, people go. It's certainly not an overhaul club.
It's just a club that our goal is to make it better than it was at the
end of the regular season and get ready to take another shot at it."

Miles also suggest that the Cubs are more interested in bringing Kerry Wood back on a one-year deal with a couple of option years. It's likely that Kerry will get some guaranteed multi-year offers though, so we'll see how deep that Cubbie blood runs in Kerry.

- The Trib's Paul Sullivan reports the Cubs have fired Kosuke Fukudome's translator in hopes of finding someone who jells better with him, which I read as "has a better understanding of where the good strip clubs are in each city". Sullivan also guesses that if Fukudome is indeed moved to center field, either Felix Pie's days as a Cub are numbered or they'll find a leadoff hitting second basemen and move DeRosa to right field. The only leadofff hitting second basemen that go from the left side that I can think of are Brian Roberts, Chone Figgins and Akinori Iwamura, unless someone thinks Orlando Hudson is up for the job. I know Brian Roberts will be a hot topic again this offseason, but Andy McPhail did recently mention they'd like to extend him and I'm not sure Figgins or Iwamura will be available either.

 

 

Comments

Cubs futility sign updated on Sheffield-

http://deadspin.com/5074692/96--97--98--99-

I understand the concerns about Peavy's health, but it's amazing how reactionary baseball can be. A year ago, an exchange of Dempster for Peavy would have been unthinkable, but now, there are those among us that would rather lock up Dempster.

It's Jake freaking Peavy. The field is clear for the Cubs to make a move, and Towers is ready to deal NOW. Unload the farm system, get your draft picks for Demp and move forward to position players.

You don't think having 60% of the rotation filled by guys with a history of shoulder problems would be like the 2005-2006 days?

Yeah, it's a concern. But you're talking about three aces in the prime of their careers, none of whom have had major shoulder problems. Dempster, on the other hand, has had major elbow problems and is also several years older.

I'd be thrilled if Dempster returns, but if given the choice, I'd prefer Peavy. Hell, I'd prefer both of them to Marquis, but that's probably a pipe dream.

Well, Peavy's got elbow and shoulder problems. Elbow problems = TJ surgery and out for a year. Shoulder problems = Mark Prior.

I think if we trade for Peavy, that Harden should be part of the deal, maybe a three way trade to get a high end prospect. Otherwise it's just too much boom or bust for the rotation.

The other concern is Peavy isn't quite making FA money in 2009, but trading for him will approximate a big dollar signing. Dempster made what, $6.5 last year? Peavy is scheduled to make almost twice that.

Rotation of:
Zambrano $17.75
Peavy $11
Lilly $12
Marquis $9.75
Harden $7

: is a lot of cash ($59.5 million). Hendry will probably back load Dempster's contract. If Harden and/or Marquis go in trades, then there's a little more wiggle room for Peavy. Having Dempster and Peavy - don't see how that could work out after 2009, that would be like $60 million just for the top 4 guys.

At the end of the day, though, I'd prefer a rotation with the safe and steady guys over the high risk/reward guys.

At least with Peavy you know your getting a guy who will be good if healthy, with Dempster you dont know if this year was a fluke. some of Peavy's arm troubles could have very well been not wanting to risk pitching for a bad team during a dead arm period.

Peavy had a 99 ERA+ in 2006. For reference that's the same number Jason Marquis put up this year. For whatever reason, he gave up a lot of HR's that year.

fwiw, this guy has a rundown of Peavy's injury history

http://www.dugoutcentral.com/blog/?p=1944

forearm, elbow and shoulder tendonitis...

no structural damage in his last MRI, but whatever..

Cards interested in Renteria, Fuentes

Brewers pick up Cameron's $10MM option and have or will offer CC 4/110

Nats interested in Adam Dunn

"4/110"

That's an obscene amount of money for a team with an $81M payroll.

" . . . either Felix Pie's days as a Cub are numbered or they'll find a leadoff hitting second basemen and move DeRosa to right field."

Rob, that EITHER/OR was AND in Sullivan's piece.

well thank god that's fixed....you saved the Internet.

BB is on the 'list' of guys to be looked over for the Mariners' job.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/386111_mari...

The Orioles are wanting to dump Ramon Hernandez, I wonder if by offering to take him and part of his salary if we could get Roberts a bit cheaper.

Maybe we can take all the salary and get Markakis too? Har.

I don't think this will surprise anybody, but...

"Re-signing Dempster and Wood are Hendry's priorities, but he also is expected to seek a new leadoff man to push Soriano down in the order, a new right fielder to push Fukudome into a platoon role and middle relief help from both the left and right sides."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs...

that's the same link in the post...

Take this as with a grain of salt:

Heard this from Simone Adamle:

but I heard that Hendry was playing golf with Kevin Towers about a possible trade for Peavy. Names brought up were Pie, Marshall, Ronnie Cedeno.

Allegedly this came from WMVP Chicago

If it was those three and only those three, all I gotta say is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but I heard that Hendry was playing golf with Kevin Towers...

right, and after the round of golf they are going to #22's house for cookies and milk.

i stated my source

I've heard the speculation was Towers wants 4 players back from all teams he's talking with, including those 3 rumored - Marshall, Pie, Cedeno and apparently he wants Jose Ceda back as well. If the Padres do indeed want Cedeno then I'd be willing to bet Towers would make Hendry take K.Greene and his full contract in the deal as well.

also the Yankees signed Sergio Mitre
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081103&c...

first link in the comments is a story about what Towers is looking for....

 

I'll confirm Chad's source -- I heard Bruce Levine report that the Pads are interested in a Marshall/Pie/Cedeno/Ceda package.

that would be beyond awesome...but I don't buy it

Apparently that may have been what the Cubs offered. Not gonna do it, Jim.

I am sure AZ Phil was all over this, but for anyone else who missed it, sounds like the Cubs got a 2ndish and 6this rounder out of Korea recently.

http://eastwindupchronicle.com/couple-of-new-korea...

Rotoworld saying the Cubs traded nonprospect, RHP Matt Avery to the Nats for Brian Buchter, LHP non-prospect. At least our non-prospect is 21 (Avery is 25).

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Ain't the GM meetings fun!

Hendry feels Hoffpauir may help-
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=247539

Dempster could be attractive to the NY teams-

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8748676/Dempste...

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  • trevor clifton (high-A) could be interesting in a couple seasons...could even become a high/middle rotation guy. he's got a lot of pluses in his pitching except control.

    eric leal's (high-A) progression through the minors should be worth watching even if only projects to be an mid/end-rotation starter.

    we also gotta keep a long-distance eye on guys like jose paulino (ss-A) and preston morrison (A).

    crunch 4 hours 28 min ago view
  • As Johnny Bach used to say when it was time for the MJ Bulls to crank up the defensive pressure: "Release the Dobermans!", and Jordan, Pippen, Rodman and Harper would just suffocate the other team.

    I'd love to add Carl Jr. to that group - he's got the stuff.

    billybucks 4 hours 48 min ago view
  • Historically, the Moneyball guys have been great at identifying productive hitters. Not so much with pitchers.

    billybucks 4 hours 49 min ago view
  • Wow - Pierce Johnson with an ERA of 8.01 in 42IP!

    What a stud prospect! Must be pitching with a pierced johnson.

    Looks like Ryan Williams is the only legit prospect there. That is sad...

    The E-Man 4 hours 51 min ago view
  • Well it would seem that's all they need now. "Stropy" can have his moments, but he's been more consistent post-asg.

    The E-Man 5 hours 32 sec ago view
  • Take THAT, Cardinals -- you beat Fernandez, we beat Sale.

    I really like Lackey as a 6-inning pitcher.

    billybucks 5 hours 27 min ago view
  • Three amigos? Because the Dominican, the Venezuelan, and the Cuban?

    Maybe the three-headed dragon?

    John Beasley 5 hours 43 min ago view
  • Who says Contreras can't frame? Stone cold robbery of Eaton with that called third strike for the first out in the eighth

    Eric S 6 hours 14 min ago view
  • Three amigos time?

    7-8-9th

    jacos 6 hours 29 min ago view
  • he should hit more of those. that would be an ideal outcome. /moneyballs

    crunch 10 hours 45 min ago view
  • Russell with 19 RBI in July so far. Grand Slams help.

    billybucks 11 hours 26 min ago view
  • ...and Familia with back-to-back blown saves. Blows a one-run lead vs. Rockies today, gets his 2nd consecutive loss.

    I am OK with the Mets missing the playoffs and suffering crushing losses at home --- just want them to beat St. Louis.

    He played with fire twice agains the Cubs -- unfortunately, the Cubs couldn't stop swinging.

    billybucks 11 hours 30 min ago view
  • How about Kyle Farnsworth? I know he was consistently upper 90s.

    videographer 13 hours 25 min ago view
  • If he puts up Soriano numbers I will be ecstatic

    jacos 15 hours 12 min ago view
  • I think Javy is learning--but he's learning to make contact, not learning to lay off pitches out of the zone. A quick glance at his plate discipline numbers on Fangraphs shows that his contact rate is up, especially his contact rate out of the zone, but his swing rate is up too, especially his swing rate out of the zone.

    Charlie 15 hours 47 min ago view
  • I definitely saw ballpark radar guns go up to 102 on Kerry Wood back when he was still a starter, but who knows how accurate they were.

    Charlie 16 hours 56 sec ago view