"Unbelievably Stupid"

...about sums it up.

Till game time.

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believe you can listen here.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/chicago/play

...frustrated

but believes there's lots of progress behind the scenes (infrastructure, scouting, etc) that will pay off down the road, but knows most fans don't care about that.

...get out of the mindset of spending a little extra on veterans and hope everything breaks right. Focus on building a solid nucleus.

plays up how much fans enjoy watching young players come up

everyone's game change planned in draft, after a certain point couldn't look for HS upside guys with 1st round talent in later rounds

says he likes Castro even more now that he's been around him, cites defensive improvement and hard work, still hiccups along the way. "Moving his feet much better"..."this kid cares"...

at the plate, Castro is a work in progress...5 years away from his prime.

can't blame Rudy, recites the importance of on-base percentage and working the count and just wanted a unified voice....said it already started in the minors. Rudy very good at the mechanics but wanted to shift the nature of the conversation.

Rizzo - "almost ready"...wants full season of at-bats at AAA level (162 games, not AAA season). Has to stay consistent with his hands, but has the right mental approach.

**wants full season of at-bats at AAA levels (162 games, not AAA season).**

So he'll get called up in 10 days or so? He currently has 153 games at AAA.

Also mentioned that there wasn't a clear place for him yet...

Though LaHair is certainly making it easier.

Because we love small sample sizes around here:

LaHair in June: .280/.333/.560 OPS: .893

I think it's smart to keep Rizzo down a bit and see how LaHair does with a couple more months around the league. He had 3 strikeouts yesterday but the line you're showing is pretty good and shows that maybe he's adjusting to the adjustments. If he starts to get hot again, it just gives theocorp a little more to work with, and God knows, this team needs all the help it can get.

Sample Size Issues abound, but...
vs. LHP: 111/250/222
vs. RHP: 348/419/660

IMHO he's got a tremendous amount value given his production/salary ratio but platooning him is probably the right answer. Though please don't read this as an endorsement of Baker as the short side of that platoon :)

BR has him at:

vs. LHP: .107/.242/.214

But regardless... its only 33 plate appearances. The Cubs are terrible. There is little/no reason to put him out there every day against LHP and see what he can do.

Agreed. There's nothing more to lose at this point. May as well answer the question conclusively not being able to hit LHP. Allows them to build around that next year and finding a lefty masher, and there should a large number of them available relatively cheaply.

there's always a reason, even if it's one many of us disagree with...

by not playing him against lefties, it leaves other teams wondering if he's good against lefties (much like most of us on this board) and the hope/desire/curiosity if he is good could be more valuable than watching him flail away at sliders.

I'm not saying I agree with that, but there could be some of the thought process. My guess is Sveum is just trying to win some games and thinks Baker vs. lefties is a better option.

let's hope!!!

Theo doing his best to buy himself a few extra days with Rizzo.

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/i...

full quotes from Theo on Rizzo

a.gallaraga disagrees with the list...that's a personal/history call rather than a team call, though.

I got a chance to watch the Peoria Chiefs play the Snappers last night in Beloit. Javier Baez sure has a lot of motion at the plate. Stride, cocking the bat, leg kick--like Victorian clockwork. But this seems to enable him to wait back and then generate a quick swing. He hit two balls hard, one for a ground single to left and one foul past third, and the ball makes That Sound when he squares it up. Defensively, he showed range and a strong arm, but last night he made Castro look like Mark Belanger glove-wise. Three errors. One was on a tough do-or-die slow chopper, but the others looked like he was preparing to throw before getting the ball in his glove.

Dustin Geiger added two more errors, one on a hustling but ill-advised throw to the plate on a hopeless swinging bunt. The other was on a slow hopper that he played off to his side; I figure he's been playing baseball since he was six and all of his coaches said to get in front of balls like that. He and Yasiel Balaguert looked a little overmatched against some strong Beloit pitching.

Zeke DeVoss looked solid. He was steady in the field, though he also played a grounder off to the side but got away with it. He's very fast and looks smaller than the 5'10" he's listed at. Obviously a candidate to be the Tony Campana/Sam Fuld/Augie Ojeda/Doug Dascenzo du jour in 2015. He does work the count, so that helps.

Michael Jensen, who has been pitching very well, was the victim of the five errors, though he also let a few Snappers pound the ball. He has good stuff, as do the two relievers, big Larry Suarez (reminded me of a cross between Ferguson Jenkins and Lee Smith) and wiry Felix Pena.

I should add that it's a great time at the Snappers ballpark. It's pretty basic compared to Peoria, Kane County, or Davenport, but for $9 ($7.50 in advance), you get a "box seat" of molded plastic with arms and back--sort of a giant booster seat--very close to the action. Tuesdays have the best discounts: Hot dogs, popcorn, and pizza slices are $1, and 12-oz Leinie's are a buck and a half. "Roll Out The Barrell" and "The Gang's All Here" at the stretch, a hog-calling contest, "cheap" gas in Rockton, and you can't beat fun at the old ballpark.

thanks for the info...

rooting for DeVoss, because fast guys that actually get on-base are neat, but seems a little overmatched right now in just the low minors and the defense thing.

I was there as well.

Did you think ZeVo's double before his double down the RF line was fair? Also, did you think Baez was off on the wild pitch in the seventh? Either he was going, or he is crazy-quick on pitches in the dirt. It was called a wild pitch, which would indicate they thought he waited until it got away before running. Also, Baez nearly took the pitcher with him on his single in the seventh.

tim815-

I think that first one was foul by about six inches. Couldn't tell on the Baez play, because I was watching the ball. I did think he was going to get picked off at second (later that inning? don't remember) and got lucky when the throw to third was in the dirt.

Rob-

I know what you mean, but at least he looked comfortable last night. Rooting for him too.

Almost got picked at first. Shoulda been.

Did this COCO clip get Rudy fired?? Beware Bosio!

Team CoCo could have paid more attention to some of these...more mascots than you can shake a stick at.

Ike the Spike made the final 4

http://www.milb.com/milb/fans/mascot_mania/y2...

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/ch...

Re: Trying to sign 25th round pick Rhett Wiseman and was it a back-up plan to not signing Almora
Not really, because if Almora doesn't sign, his $3.25 million disappears from their draft pool. That said, I don't see how Almora will turn down a bonus in the neighborhood of $3 million. I think Wiseman is a totally separate consideration, albeit one who fell because he's going to be a very tough sign. We don't know how much the Cubs will have to play with because they haven't officially signed any of their first 10 picks, but they might be able to scrape up $1 million and make a run at Wiseman if they want.

Re: Ranking Correa
I'd put him behind Profar and Machado and on the same level as Lindor. This comes from someone who sees Hamilton and Baez moving off shortstop eventually.

Re: Mid-Season Top 50 list
That list usually comes out right after the Futures Game. In the past, we haven't included current year draftees. Not sure if that will change because the signing deadline has been moved up to the same time. Anyway, if we do include them, I'd say the first eight picks (Correa, Buxton, Zunino, Gausman, Zimmer, Almora, Fried, Appel) would be possibilities. I doubt we'll include all eight, though. My over/under would be four, with Buxton and Correa locks.

Re: 2013 draft
I think it's comparable to the 2012 crop, which was below average. The college bats aren't anything special (again), and I don't see pitchers to rival the Appel/Gausman/Zimmer trio. There are some interesting high schoolers, but no one lights me up like Buxton, Correa or a healthy Giolito do.

Sully sez Dodgers or Detroit have best chance to land Dempster. Who should be in Theocorp's sites to get in return?

Matt Kemp or Prince Fielder.

Psha.

Kershaw or........ Kershaw will work.

doug fister here we come.

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  • I am right there with you closing in on 60.

    I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.

    There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.

    Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.

    I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.

    The E-Man 1 hour 28 min ago view
  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 1 hour 35 min ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 1 hour 47 min ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 1 hour 49 min ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 2 hours 11 min ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 2 hours 12 min ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 2 hours 20 min ago view
  • Here are some possible corresponding minor league moves we might see in the aftermath  of the Chapman trade: 

    SOUTH BEND to MYRTLE BEACH: OF Donnie Dewees and INF Bryant Flete  

    EUGENE to SOUTH BEND: OF Robert Garcia and INF Vimael Machin 

    There is really no reason to replace Billy McKinney at Tennessee because both Chris Coghlan and Jorge Soler are doing their rehab at Tennessee.  

    And there are plenty of pitchers at Iowa. No need to replace Warren at AAA. .  

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 41 min ago view
  • I am 70 years old. The Cubs last played in the World Series in 1945. I was born in 1946. I hate to lose a prospect like Torres, but when the opportunity is there to get that World Series ring, you go for it. This was the idea in stock piling all this young talent. I would like to see Reddick added now and the Cubbies should be done.

    Hagsag 3 hours 11 min ago view
  • I would expect Richard to accept an optional assignment because based on how he's played this season, there is a decent chance that he won't find work elsewhere. Rather stay and potentially get a ring. Same goes for Coghlan since he's struggled mightily this year.

    Edwards should not go down. He's pitched very well and Maddon is very impressed with him. I would expect Grimm to go down for Cahill so he can get back on track (he's pitched better in July, but he's not getting enough appearances).

    chitownmvp01 3 hours 15 min ago view
  • chitownmvp01: Indeed Clayton Richard would seem to be odd man out once Chapman reports, but Richard might accept a minor league assignment if he is promised a return to Chicago on 9/1 when MLB Active List rosters expand (Richard has minor league ioptions left).

    Arizona Phil 3 hours 18 min ago view
  • The only player in the deal that would cause me a second thought is Gleyber Torres.

    McKinney and Crawford are decent prospects but both are redundant/replaceable in the system and Warren was really only a middle-reliever or #6 starter, so to me it's really just Torres for Chapman.

    Arizona Phil 3 hours 38 min ago view
  • There is no Comp pick for players traded mid-season. 2+ months of Chapman is it.

    mbauer 3 hours 40 min ago view
  • to get one of the best you have to give up one/some of your best...but it's a bit painful to watch the system's best prospect walk for any 2-3 month rental, especially one that's not an everyday player.

    crunch 3 hours 43 min ago view
  • I assume Chapman will replace Richard on the roster, but who goes down when Cahill gets activated? Maybe Grimm?

    And when Soler and Coghlan get healthy, how do they fit them on the roster when they're ready to be activated?

    chitownmvp01 3 hours 46 min ago view
  • We are giving up a lot, but it's not like we're trading Addison Russell for 2+ months of Jason Hammel. When impact players become available, they are going to cost you. The other bids could also have been high.

    Having Chapman as a rental is potentially less disruptive than having him come in with an extension in place. 

    CTSteve 3 hours 48 min ago view