Game 31 Thread - Maholm vs. Hudson

Soriano sits because of a sore knee and an OPS in the .500's.

Braves Cubs
*Bourn, CF
*DeJesus, RF
Prado, LF
*Campana, CF
*Freeman, 1B
Castro, SS
Uggla, 2B *LaHair, 1B
#C. Jones, 3B *Stewart, 3B
*Heyward, RF Soto, C
Ross, C
*Cardenas, LF
Wilson, SS
Barney, 2B
Hudson, P
*Maholm, P

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As I mentioned in the last thread, I think theocorp is handling this really well. He was never much of a hitter, in my mind, but Soriano does seem like a class guy, very nice and all.

Letting him go through "injury", which I am assuming is happening, is good stuff.

Sveum is also starting to impress me. I think he might actually mean it when he says results count. It is tough to stay on that philosophy when about 5 of your starters are Triple AAA caliber. But he is doing stuff I'd expect some of you guys to do.

Okay, one more thing. The Cubs are actually looking like a good team. They may suck on many levels, but coaching is huge - in my opinion - and they are a team that I am now trying to watch, rather than avoid.

We have a triple A team competing with the rest of the league. May not last, but it may.

Effing pollyanna...

Feel free to comment.

Watch and learn.

lol

hey look, an out on the basepaths

LaHair due up next.

*bangs head on the desk* Wonder how many runs vs outs Castro's aggressive base running has given us.

So what happened there? Gameday just said Castro out at home.

slicer down right field line, Heyward dove and ball landed right on line and bounced into right field.

Castro certainly didn't leave the box at full speed seeing if it was fair and then thrown out at home. Heyward bounced the throw to Uggla and Uggla threw it up the third base line by about 5 feet and he was still out relatively easily.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball...

Kinzer says he won't talk long-term extension for Castro during season.

Marshall trying to choke away a lead again.

leadoff HR to Braun.

2-1 Reds, 1 out after striking out Ramirez.

and lifted after getting 2 outs, but 2 singles.

Ondrusek gets the final out and Reds win 2-1. Cueto/Greinke with 8 shutout innings each. Axford strikes out the first 2 hitters in the 9th, has 2 strikes on Stubbs and then gives up a single, double to Votto that scores Stubbs and a single to Phillips that scored Votto.

Careen win #1500 for Dusty, 20th All-time

presuming around 80 wins the next 2 years, should move up to #16 by end of next season.

Malholm down to a 1.08 WHIP btw. He's been giving up too many HRs but overall he's been pitching better than his ERA. This is in opposition to James Russel who with a 1.32 WHIP is just begging for an ERA spike soon.

fun fact: in an NL only roto league I dumped Maholm after the first week, but kept Volstad.

I am awesome.

Not as awesome as me. I picked up LaHair during an off-season waivers period, then didn't hang on to him as a keeper prior to the draft.

FOR I AM COSTANZA, LORD OF THE IDIOTS

but you still have danks in your other league right?

nah, I dumped Danks before his start Tuesday when he finally pitched well, although he didn't get the win.

Starting pitching in our mixed league isn't particularly hard to find though.

You should have dropped them both? :)

lahero strikes again...rbi single hit into the hole of the shift.

and LaHair cashes in on the opportunity he didn't get with Castro thrown out, 2-out RBI single.

LaHair, he of the "I can hit everything they throw at me" Lahair?

The baseball knowledge is unique.

Stewart with a half-ass defensive play giving up a 2-out double.

followed by a BB.

Dolis up in the pen.

gets Uggla to pop out to RF.

Be up to Dolis to finish it.

is there a reason why s.maine is in AAA being their best reliever rather than in the bigs being the cubs best reliever? he's only getting out both lefties and righties...with control...

also, do lendy castillo and mike bowden exist?

Wood will probably go on DL after hurting his arm throwing his glove.

that was boring, yet good...cubs win.

1-2-3 inning for Dolis against Jones, Heyward and McCann.

Cubs take another series from a division leader.

The only question left is whether this Cubs team is the best team in 2012, or best team ever?

Things certainly have changed for the better haven't they.

best-est Cubs team ever?

Larry's last game at Wrigley

they gave him one of the "standings flags" for ATL from the outfield flag section. class.

Cubs are 8-7 vs. Nationals, Cardinals, Dodgers and Braves

5-11 vs. Marlins, Brewers, Reds and Phillies

Interesting stat, but a lot of that has to do with timing. This team started bad.

Last time Cubs won a game 1-0: Aug. 3, 2011, @ PIT (W Garza, S Marmol).

This team is a Top-60 reliever away from being a .500 club. Considering what we thought we had, and also who's contributing nothing, that's saying a lot.

This team definitely has issues. Castro and LaHair will realistically both most likely see their stats drop a bit, as will Campana and Dempster. Yet on the other hand, I can also see Soto, Soriano and Stewart batting wise and Malholm and Volstad pitching wise seeing #s get better. We got a team right now pretty out of wack with player career #s both positive and negative, so will be interesting to see which way it goes.

Overall though if Rizzo shows an ability to cut down on strike outs and Castro learns to run the bases better it will be a pretty epic middle of the lineup we have with some excellent top of the rotation pitching.

Castro and LaHair are both stars. The rest I just am waiting for the fall. But Sveum is pretty good to be able to get this crew to be competitive. His not your mother's Qball.

Fredi Gonzalez has some Qball in him ...
“Huddy was outstanding. So much that if he would have come out of the seventh inning with no runs, I was thinking about letting him hit in the eighth, because he was that dominant.” ... “We swung the bats well. Even though we didn’t score any runs today, I can’t complain about our offense. They did a nice job defending us… It seems like we should have won two out of three, especially with Huddy’s performance today.”

On yesterday's win: “Good team effort. Danny battled to get that two-run single and get us over the top.” ... “Freeman’s going to go home 0-for-3, 0-for-4, and he hit three balls right on the nose. You can’t do anything about that. I thought we all had good at-bats against him. He just kept us off-balance. The old guy – I’m calling Dempster the old guy – he reached back one time and punched out Bourney with 93 [mph]. I think he pitched the whole night at about 88, 89.”

still a terrible offense and the pitching will only get worse.

Except imo Malhom and Volstad will both get better, as will Wood and Marmol. That doesn't mean they are great pitchers (though I think Malhom has actually been pitching well) but that thing Ryno was talking about with reverting to the mean applies here. They are pitching much worse than career #s and that's just as likely to revert back to a better mean as the good will be to revert back to a worse mean.

/edit not to mention take a look at the career #s of Soto, Soriano and Ian Stewart. Both are way underperforming those #s. If we're going to make the claim our good starting pitching will come back down a bit (which is a realistic point) you also need to accept that way underperforming players will most likely move back to their career mean unless you have nagging injuries. Soriano maybe might see an age drop off, but I just don't see it being this drastic. None of those players most likely will ever be part of a future team, but if we can see an uptick in performance from them and our back 2 pitchers, it will help mask a drop off in performance for our overperforming players.

You think Maholm will get better? He better start clearing off space on a shelf for his Cy Young award.

He's overall pitching well and has a 1.080 WHIP but is giving up too many HRs and I do think he can bring that ERA down a bit. I don't think he's a star or anything but he seems to be a pretty good #4th pitcher.

the new comments reminded me that I forgot to respond.

I believe all the players that may regress upwards will be tempered by all the players that will regress downwards. The team isn't winning these games easily and I don't think they have the pitching talent to keep winning 1-run games at anymore than a .500 clip.

I picked them to win 75 games and I'd be thrilled if they got there.

Which is why I would like to see them make a 4-5 yr commitment to Garza, land a proven #2/#3 starter in the FA market (e.g. Hamels), and hope this Samardzija is the real deal. Having those three plus a Maholm is a good starting point. Would also like to see the obvious trade deadline dumps (Soto, Dempster, Baker) bring back some effective bullpen help for 2012-2013.

The offense (right now) is obviously going to be built around Castro, Rizzo, BJax, Castillo/Clevenger, and LaHair (for as long he continues to hit). Not sure what Theo's plan is for the offense (FA, trades, or wait for the farm system).

Cubs at Brewers: Battling to get OUT of last place...

This team definitely has issues.

Thank you Capt. Obvious :)

Campana is a bunting hit machine. There is no stopping him!

Last night the Braves corners were pulled in guarding against his bunting "magic." The little dude "crushed" a singe to left!

He actually does fuck up pitchers a bit. Its just, he has to have enough OBP accumen to make it worthwhile.

Overall, I am impressed with our starting pitching. I am unimpressed with the two costly bullpen veterans, who have cost the team 5 wins or more.

This team is looking like the 2010 Padres East! (except no "good" Heath Bell, or A. Gonzo)

It would be a hoot if the team can start sniffing .500 again.

did today's game come with a crack cocaine and antidepressant smoothie or something?

there's a bit of glow coming off this game for some reason. 13 wins, 5 away from .500...still crap hitting...still iffy pen. stewart's recent (odd) misplays aside the D is a bit tighter lately.

Just "boring, but good Cubs win."

Nothing more...

here and twitter are blowing up with hope. it's just an odd-ish coincidence after a pretty quick/uneventful game. not trying to poop in anyone's sandbox.

not trying to poop in anyone's sandbox.

Dude, that is gross. Stop doing that!

I am liking the the starting pitching, actually. At least lately. Except for the "Big Funk" Volsted.

I'd like to see them sign Garza. We are going to have to wait until July to find out if its gonna happen.

fun fact: Matt Bush was driving Brandon Guyer's truck when he crashed under the influence and Guyer is also being sued for $5M.

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/rays/content/gu...

Guyer called up to replace Keppinger briefly as he was put on the restricted list for a personal matter.

Ouch. On the other hand, why would you let Matt Bush borrow your truck?

Colvin playing 1b for rockies at the moment.

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  • Sure, no marks and some inconsistencies in the witness's statements. But firing your gun into garage wall immediately after an argument and punching out your car window is still threatening and out of control behavior. There was certainly enough for MLB to think it warranted a 30-game suspension.

    Charlie 19 min 2 sec ago view
  • I'd prefer they be flexible with the closing situation depending on matchups. You're not really adding a lefty reliever if you use him strictly as a closer.

    Charlie 19 min 34 sec ago view
  • Stockpiling young talent isn't only for trading for someone like Chapman though. Even with an elite closer winning the World Series is basically a crap shoot so the key is to get to the playoffs as much as possible and not just mortgage everything on one year. Once you get there an elite bullpen certainly helps but the playoffs can be won by one hitter or starting pitcher getting hot (Murphy, Molina, Baumgardner) and a closer might not be able to stop that.

    johann 43 min 53 sec ago view
  • I'm also not crazy about press convictions. As the police report noted, there were no marks on the lady in question. There's a TMZ link (of course) to her police pictures, as well.

    I think the only way this trade goes real bad is if Cubbery intervenes and Chapman is suddenly bad for some reason.

    Old and Blue 47 min 14 sec ago view
  • I am right there with you closing in on 60.

    I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.

    There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.

    Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.

    I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.

    The E-Man 2 hours 16 min ago view
  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 2 hours 24 min ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 2 hours 36 min ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 2 hours 38 min ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 3 hours 22 sec ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 3 hours 50 sec ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 3 hours 9 min ago view
  • Here are some possible corresponding minor league moves we might see in the aftermath  of the Chapman trade: 

    SOUTH BEND to MYRTLE BEACH: OF Donnie Dewees and INF Bryant Flete  

    EUGENE to SOUTH BEND: OF Robert Garcia and INF Vimael Machin 

    There is really no reason to replace Billy McKinney at Tennessee because both Chris Coghlan and Jorge Soler are doing their rehab at Tennessee.  

    And there are plenty of pitchers at Iowa. No need to replace Warren at AAA. .  

    Arizona Phil 3 hours 29 min ago view
  • I am 70 years old. The Cubs last played in the World Series in 1945. I was born in 1946. I hate to lose a prospect like Torres, but when the opportunity is there to get that World Series ring, you go for it. This was the idea in stock piling all this young talent. I would like to see Reddick added now and the Cubbies should be done.

    Hagsag 4 hours 16 sec ago view
  • I would expect Richard to accept an optional assignment because based on how he's played this season, there is a decent chance that he won't find work elsewhere. Rather stay and potentially get a ring. Same goes for Coghlan since he's struggled mightily this year.

    Edwards should not go down. He's pitched very well and Maddon is very impressed with him. I would expect Grimm to go down for Cahill so he can get back on track (he's pitched better in July, but he's not getting enough appearances).

    chitownmvp01 4 hours 3 min ago view
  • chitownmvp01: Indeed Clayton Richard would seem to be odd man out once Chapman reports, but Richard might accept a minor league assignment if he is promised a return to Chicago on 9/1 when MLB Active List rosters expand (Richard has minor league ioptions left).

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 6 min ago view
  • The only player in the deal that would cause me a second thought is Gleyber Torres.

    McKinney and Crawford are decent prospects but both are redundant/replaceable in the system and Warren was really only a middle-reliever or #6 starter, so to me it's really just Torres for Chapman.

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 27 min ago view