Rough Year for Chicago GM's

Technically it's a new year I guess, but Angelo's firing culminated in the failure of 2011. A lot of you already mentioned the Bears hiring Bill Polian whom I believe Lovie Smith is familiar with.

As for the Cubs, all quiet on the western front. Garza rumors swirl, but my guess is Theo is running into the same issues that Kenny Williams ran into trying to move John Danks. The return in prospects isn't going to be as bountiful with only a year or two left of club control and the player already earning high end arbitration dollars. Garza does have one more year before being free agent eligible though and in the end, it just takes one sucker. Allegedly the Blue Jays, Red Sox, Yankees, Tigers and Marlins are the most interested. I also read some rumor about Marlon Byrd possibly being the compensation to the Red Sox. I can't even recall where I heard that, so don't put much stock into it.

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Coco Crisp has decided on where he'll sign--- looks like it's the A's not the Cubs but nothing official yet.

Hmm... so much for wanting to play for a contender.

I also read some rumor about Marlon Byrd possibly being the compensation to the Red Sox. I can't even recall where I heard that, so don't put much stock into it.
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It was the Boston Globe's big bad Nick Cafardo in his weekend baseball notes which have become voluminous because of all the venom spewing toward Chicago of late...

27. Would the Red Sox and Cubs settle on outfielder Marlon Byrd as compensation for Theo Epstein? Byrd is a 34-year-old high-effort righthanded hitter with a good arm who could platoon in right, though his splits are not platoon-friendly. Last season, he hit righties at a .296 clip and lefties at .219. Something would probably have to be done about that $6.5 million salary, with the Cubs picking up some, if not all of it.

http://articles.boston.com/2012-01-01/sports/...

thanks, more speculation than rumor

If they want a platoon outfielder, then they can have Soriano.

The Red Sox "nation" has gone from wanting Castro to Garza to top prospects to Byrd to whatever and ever. I think Epstein's a pretty good GM, but I don't get why they think they're gonna get something of much value when the guy was just a GM and he left for a promotion. Boston fans are ridiculous.

For Angelo to go two years in a row without sufficient depth (quality) at the most important position, and to sign players with injury history on the o-line making his golden-boy QB punished like a boxing speed-bag, is truly fucked-up.

Todd Fucking Collins?!

He should have been fired for signing that turd alone.

Also for stockpiling #3 Receivers, and trying to tell fans that's good enough...and having out offensive tackles a 7th round pick and an undrafted FA....I am shocked that All-Pro Jared Allen beat former 7th round pick like a drum..not.

also, Frank Effing Omiyale.

Geez, we could all write a book on the poor decisions he made.

There are some paralells to Hendry to be sure.

While Angelo should be applauded for Hester and some defensive moves, to
predicate a Championship just on special teams and D alone is extremely flawed when compared to the perennial successful teams.

And, the "evaluation of talent" thing - the Packers are like the Cardinals are to
the Cubs now. Just overall better talent from top to bottom (save a few players).

It's a tough business. He got Cutler. Nice move. But there was something wrong -- like his unbelievable unwillingness to get an O line to protect the guy he paid so much to get. I mean, that was just weird.

Maybe he has ADHD?

some of the backup QB issues have to fall on Lovie and Martz though for wanting someone familiar with the system, instead of someone actually talented.

McNown actually didn't look too bad to me. He could make the intermediate throws, stuck in the pocket and could scramble. Still be nice if they could find a decent young QB in the first 3 rounds.

I like McNown as a backup. Would have loved Orton.

But my point is underlined by the Packer's newbie QB who threw for 400+ yards against a good team on Sunday.

Solid talent evaluation.

Not Lovie, really. He's a damn good coach and they were right for saying we love Lovie and f- the rest of ya. He never really has much to work with, in my opinion. An occasional defensive guy (peppers), Brian U, and that's about it. He really does a lot with very little.

EDIT: you can make the argument that he stuck with Martz too long, but I thought Martz was a reasonable gamble, and Lovie at least said to the world, you know what? I don't know offense, so I'm gonna hire an offense guy. It didn't work out cuz Martz is so 1990. His system was so complex that nobody really grokked it, and he did stupid ass stuff like ask his QB, who is a pocket QB, to drop back ten steps. A Good offensive coach will adapt to his QB. Cutler hated that guy, for good reason. Drop back ten, get creamed. I'd hate him too.

EDIT NUMBER 2: I hope that the new GM knows football well enough to know that if you want to do the free agent thing with wide receivers you get guys who can catch bullets. I'm not convinced Roy Williams can't. He may have a nice year next year without Martz. But we need a guy as GM who really gets that. Cutler is not a QB for panzy receivers. You have to react quick, watch the ball in your gut, and close your eyes and learn how to take a tackle. Yes, I played wide out as a kid.

fancy pants article about Garza's trade value

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/matt...

first comment:
And lets not forget you said Garza was no better a pitcher than Aaron Harang after the Cubs acquired him last year.

hehe

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospect...

Cubs have 6th and 41st picks so far with Pena still out there and a few others that could change the 41st pick.

Brad Snyder still kicking, traded to Rangers from O's for cash considerations.

-edit- whoops, that's Brandon Snyder, different guy. The ex-Cub Brad Snyder signed with the Astros this offseason.

Martz has allegedly quit and the QB coach is gone too.

4:00 presser
Wscr saying more changes coming

God bless George McCaskey!
ASU!

IKR?

I saw McCaskey for the first time yesterday. He doesn't look like a football man or a businessman. He looks and talks like a store clerk.

To tie this back to the Cubs (since this is a Cubs blog), if you put McCaskey, Phillips, Ricketts and Epstein in a lineup, you could easily pick out the owner and president of the forlorn franchise with no hope.

The McCaskeys have done nothing for the Bears in thirty-plus years. They won Super Bowl XX, but old man Halas, before he died, had already hand-picked the head coach and, more importantly, the defensive coordinator of that '85 team. (Not that Halas did the Bears any favors during my lifetime.)

What a rotten organization. Ownership is everything.

He doesn't look like a football man or a businessman. He looks and talks like a store clerk.

WTF does this even mean?

from former Bears TE Desmond Clark

Egos and head butting led to the departures of Jerry Angelo and Mike Martz. Not a good situation the last 2 years. Awful environment to work

Carlos Silva to a minor league deal. Also Rich Hill and Nate Spears to minor league deals as well.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/red-sox...

Andy Mcfail must be giving Cherington pointers... When in doubt, just sign everyone who used to be with the Cubs...

hey, Rich Hill hasn't given up an earned run in the majors since 2009!!!

http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/news/arti...

seems Nats are only team serious about Fielder at this point

another story out there said Boras wants an opt out after 3 years and the average annual salary to be higher than Pujols.

Here's hoping Fielder winds up firing Boras after all talks collapse.

Doesn't seem to happen. Everybody hates Boras, except for the guy who he represents. I find it hard to dislike someone who is a master at their job.

http://deadspin.com/5872672/some-dude-got-arr...

guy breaks into Wrigley and decides to go for some dead ivy.

long write-up by toonsterwu at Minor League Ball

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/1/2/26765...

Cubs list by Sickels due soon, has a discussion up today.
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/1/3/26783...

nice toonster...

...and damn, people love marco hernandez.

Toonster is a good poster. He was on the Bruce Miles blog before they got all batty and did the payment gateway thing.

Great job toonster!

Be sure to read the comments. He adds more of his thoughts.

randomness

dude asking Rosenthal if he's heard anything about a deal of Felix Hernandez going to the Blue Jays. Allegedly Jaso and Felix for Gose, Arencibia, Alvarez, Snider and Drabek from a Blue Jays front office source. Says Garza talks were more a plan B.

https://twitter.com/tmfb82

no surprise, but seems to be a prank of some sort.

I'd deal Soto and Garza for Arencibia, Snider, Drabek and Deck McGuire.

I'd throw in Matt Szczur to sweeten the deal if it would help.

They don't need a catcher.

If they are including Arencibia they will. That is why Jaso is in that Seattle deal.

That wasnt a real deal. They have D'arnaud and Molina besides Arencibia.

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  • Who is this Arrieta guy? Can I get the old one back please?

    The E-Man 11 min 33 sec ago view
  • Well, this is, once again, the whole season for the Sox.

    billybucks 15 min 40 sec ago view
  • ...and the Bryant RBI jinx continues in the 3rd....crap.

    billybucks 1 hour 47 min ago view
  • bryant's in the dugout filling a police report BECAUSE HE JUST GOT ROBBED.

    f'n cabrerra...

    crunch 2 hours 25 min ago view
  • chapman showing up and available tomorrow night.

    i'm sure he'll be a bit hit. hope he doesn't choke. dude has a rifle for an arm. he'll add a bit of punch to the bullpen.

    crunch 2 hours 26 min ago view
  • the 'crosstown classic' sure has lost it's magic with interleague. the excitement level is barely noticable...maybe it's a bit more hype in the city, itself.

    crunch 2 hours 30 min ago view
  • Well he didn't leave a mark so its not that bad.

    Fuck that.

    Facts:

    He choked her.

    Her brother tackled him to separate him.

    He cooled off by shooting his gun in the garage.

    I don't have to like him on the team I follow.

    And you are others are free to not give a shit about his personal misgivings if you so choose as well.

     

     

    Rob G. 2 hours 49 min ago view
  • Sure, no marks and some inconsistencies in the witness's statements. But firing your gun into garage wall immediately after an argument and punching out your car window is still threatening and out of control behavior. There was certainly enough for MLB to think it warranted a 30-game suspension.

    Charlie 4 hours 44 sec ago view
  • I'd prefer they be flexible with the closing situation depending on matchups. You're not really adding a lefty reliever if you use him strictly as a closer.

    Charlie 4 hours 1 min ago view
  • Stockpiling young talent isn't only for trading for someone like Chapman though. Even with an elite closer winning the World Series is basically a crap shoot so the key is to get to the playoffs as much as possible and not just mortgage everything on one year. Once you get there an elite bullpen certainly helps but the playoffs can be won by one hitter or starting pitcher getting hot (Murphy, Molina, Baumgardner) and a closer might not be able to stop that.

    johann 4 hours 25 min ago view
  • I'm also not crazy about press convictions. As the police report noted, there were no marks on the lady in question. There's a TMZ link (of course) to her police pictures, as well.

    I think the only way this trade goes real bad is if Cubbery intervenes and Chapman is suddenly bad for some reason.

    Old and Blue 4 hours 28 min ago view
  • I am right there with you closing in on 60.

    I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.

    There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.

    Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.

    I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.

    The E-Man 5 hours 58 min ago view
  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 6 hours 6 min ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 6 hours 17 min ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 6 hours 19 min ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 6 hours 42 min ago view