NL Central Curse Hits Cubs; Cashner and Wells Headed to DL
Patrick Mooney of CSN is reporting on his twitter account that Randy Wells and Andrew Cashner are both going to the disabled list.
Wells goes down with a forearm strain that no one knew anything about, Cashner's injury is his rotator cuff. I'm sure more details will be forthcoming. Mooney reports neither will throw for 2 weeks with the Cubs being cautious in April and Casey Coleman is sure to be one of the pitchers to join the rotation.
Some updates after the jump...
Hendry said both pitchers would be shut down for from 10 days to two
weeks and then will be reevaluated. Hendry said there were "no surgical
possibilities" with either pitcher.
Cashner's rotator-cuff strain was termed "very mild" by Hendry, and he
said that Wells' injury was strictly muscular in nature and did not
involve the elbow.
Q-Ball said he'd try to limit the need of a 5th starter. Now if neither of them will pick up a ball for 10-14 days, you need to tack on at least a week or two before they can join the rotation. So here's what the rotation could look like if Z stops drinking too many Red Bulls before games. I'll use Russell as a placeholder for now.
- Today (6th) - Dempster
- Thursday (7th) - Off Day
- Friday(8th) - Zambrano
- Saturday(9th) - Garza
- Sunday(10th) - Coleman
- 11th @Houston - Dempster
- 12th @Houston - Russell
- 13th @Houston - Zambrano
- 14th - Off Day
- 15th @Rockies - Garza
- 16th @Rockies - Coleman
- 17th @Rockies - Dempster (might switch Coleman/Dempster here)
- 18th vs. Padres - Zambrano
- 19th vs. Padres - Russell
- 20th vs. Padres - Garza
- 21st - Off Day
- 22nd vs. Dodgers - Dempster
- 23rd vs. Dodgers - Zambrano
- 24th vs. Dodgers - Coleman
- 25th vs. Rockies - Garza
- 26th vs. Rockies - Russell
- 27th vs. Rockies - Dempster
- 28th @ DBacks - Zambrano
- 29th @ DBacks - Coleman
- 30th @ DBacks - Garza
- 1st @ DBacks - Russell
- 2nd @ Dodgers - Dempster
- 3rd @ Dodgers - Zambrano
- 4th @ Dodgers - Coleman
- 5th - Off Day
- 6th vs. Reds - Garza
- 7th vs. Reds - Dempster
- 8th vs. Reds - Zambrano
- 9th - Off Day
Then the Cardinals come into town and by that point hopefully Wells and/or Cashner will be ready to go.
four winds field is awesome. it's crazy how minor league parks have "grown up" since the 80s/90s and that park was one of the late-80s models that showed a low-capacity ballpark could look like you're at something other than a highschool baseball game.
On another topic....I returned to South Bend last night for the 2nd time this season (still haven't tried either the deep-fried mac & cheese sandwich nor "The Porknado", as the drive home is over an hour and that could get ugly), and was pleasantly surprised to find D. Underwood pitching in a rehab start. He looked good -- although, to be fair, these are low-A hitters -- fastball consistently at 94-95 (if the SB scoreboard is to be believed -- several pitches were clocked in the 30s...) and with good location.
he gains nothing, no advantage, no saving of resources, nothing...there is not a cost/benefit tradeoff...him letting the running game go on around him for others to control isn't gaining him an advantage elsewhere. it's putting him at a disadvantage even if it's not cashed in with a run.
And out of respect for the rest of TCR, I'm done on this. I'm sure I'm not the only one in the other camp, but time to let it go. (Until the next Lester start. I kid.)
He is putting himself at a disadvanage. But how much of one relative to the rest of his game? He's not Justin Germano -- he's inarguably one of the best SPs in baseball, issue or not. It would be more of thing to discuss ad nauseum if it constantly caused him to give up runs and lose games. But it doesn't.
shouting down my points about lester with "well, it didn't hurt" is like saying it doesn't matter if a guy starts out walking 3 guys every inning as long it's followed by a K and a double play.
it's like elevating ERA and wins to a high level while ignoring what it took to get there.
I'm asking how much it has hurt Lester and the Cubs this year. Do you have that answer?
I legitimately don't recall you answering that quesion, apart from the condescending silliness you just posted. So if you did answer specifically about the impact of Lester's issue, I'd like to re-read it. Thanks.
if runner = on base and pitcher = j.lester then lead = large
if lead = large then probability of extra base on following hit > average of mean
okay, enough of that silliness...
...you can read more on the thread i copy/pasted this from the last time you decided you needed to talk to me about me.
Thank you for your answer.
bless your heart.
I don't recall you answering my question about quantifying how it has hurt Lester and the Cubs this season, apart from one guy scoring on a sac fly. Can you direct me to your answer? Thanks.
Lester's personal catcher has an .809 OPS.
we already has this asinine discussion. you didn't like the answer. there's already an answer above you can apply about how a guy goes from 1st base to home on a sac fly that included him stealing 3rd while lester watched from the mound. the fact that the cubs bats, 100% independent of that situation, scored some runs invalidates it as an issue to you. i find that stupid. we will not get anywhere with this. you know we will not get anywhere with this...because we already had this asinine discussion.
it's not about SB...it never was.
jake arrieta being slow to the plate isn't comparable to jon lester not throwing to any base. how the runners read off arrieta isn't anything similar to what a runner is reading off lester.
maybe arrieta could use a personal catcher solely to control his running game...but i doubt it's that important.
Can you quantify how this has hurt Lester/the Cubs this season?
Is WISCGRAD still around? Here's a project for him or anyone else who would be interested...
Lester's allowed 22 SBs. How many of those have scored and how many games did the Cubs lose due to them?