Father's Day: Darren Baker asks the question...and Dusty has no answers

Roster Update: Angel Guzman to the DL with a right triceps strain, Kevin Hart called up from Iowa.


Happy Father's Day everyone.

I've mostly been shoulder shrugging since the story came out that Sammy Sosa was on the positive test list for PED's that the MLB Players Association didn't destroy. To me it was old news. After the "Steroid Era" cloud passes and everyone in it washs off the stink, I wonder what will be the impact on what baseball should consider one of it's most important assets, the kids who fall in love with the game because of their father's (or mom's, but today is father's day) love of the game.

On this father's day, one of the things I treasure most is that my son is a Cubs fan and a Baseball fan. So when I read this brief Fred Mitchell article in the Tribune, it made more impact on me than when the Sammy news was leaked in the NY Times.

"The worst part for me is that I don't know what to tell my son [Darren]," the Reds manager said after Saturday's Civil Rights Game luncheon at the Duke Energy Center. "He asks me, 'Dad, are there any good hitters not on something?' I just tell him that everyone is under suspicion. I will just be glad when it's all over."

From the previous era of baseball scandal, when gambling almost ruined the game, Shoeless Joe Jackson, supposedly was asked by  a young fan who's hero was involved in the throwing of the 1919 World Series, leading to the now infamous quote:  "say it ain't so, Joe."

So when Dusty Baker was asked the modern day version of this question, he answers with questions:

"Who knows if it's real or not," Baker said. "And if it is real, still, what do you say?"

Before Sosa, manager Baker's tenure in San Francisco was clouded by the most obvious player with body shape changes,  it seems that if he was paying attention, he should have had a clue as to what was going on with Sammy. 

Asked if he was aware of Sosa's alleged steroid use with the Cubs, Baker replied:

"I had no way of telling because I had never seen it. They asked me the same thing in San Francisco. I don't think any manager knows."

Tough Questions. Unsatisfying answers. It brings to mind the proverb attributed to the 3 wise monkeys, See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. From now on, I'll just file that proverb in the outhouse with Monkey see, Monkey do.

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Samardzija 8 IP, 0 ER, 6 K, 4 BB yesterday...Cub Carpenter 6 IP, 1 ER, 2BB, 3 K for Peoria

Angel Guzman finally makes it back to the DL (right triceps strain). Kevin Hart called up.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_relea...

SHIT! SHIT!

He is finally having his best MLB year, and he goes on the DL! UGH!!

Heal Fast, dude!

I don't think that's a big deal because it sounds like he basically pitched through it yesterday. While we were blowing our lead in the 7th, Len said he wasn't available due to some soreness, then he came in and pitched 2 innings later.

Especially going into AL ballparks, you'd like to have your bullpen at full strength, so I think this move makes a lot of sense if he was going to be down for a week or so anyways.

I hope so, WES.

"I had no way of telling because I had never seen it. They asked me the same thing in San Francisco. I don't think any manager knows."

Nice answer Dusty, it's pretty much a set answer for him.

Why do you burn out young arms?
Why can't you win with best team in league?
Why can't you control your players?

BTW - Lineups???

Dusty's no different than LaRussa in this regard - last time a reporter had the temerity to wonder aloud to LaRussa's face how he could have possibly missed McGuire's steroid use, he angrily walked away. They're not going to ever face up to their parts in the whole charade, we might as well get used to it.

Soriano Theriot Bradley Lee Soto Fox(3B) Fukudome Blanco Wells
v.
Carroll DeRosa Martinez Choo Peralta Valbuena Gimenez(1B) Francisco Sowers

Reed Johnson not playing vs lefty Sowers, his back "locked up" on him. He does have a history of lumbar (lower) back surgery in 2007, so it acts up on occaision

1 game out of 2nd place...still 2.5 back out of first.

Wow, Jake Fox apparently a baseball geek. I like it.

This is going to annoy me. Lou just said he was going to rest some people tomorrow. I really don't understand why you disturb things after winning 4 in a row. Ride it out, then rest some people. Blah.

On pregame he said probally soriano and theriot not starting monday.

who's gonna lead off? soto's ob% is up to .332 so it's a bit too high even though the power is starting to show. dlee's got the power to lead off, but his ob% is too high. should be a tough decision. =p

what about Reed Johnson?

low-ish ob% and a touch of power...but he does have a bad back slowing him down so yeah, he'd be an option...too bad it's not a leg injury or he'd be a no-doubter. hehe...

If I rember what Len said during the game correctly, Bradley wont be in the starting line-up either. Given Reed's injury and the benchings I am imaging the line-up will be:

Fuku/Fonty
Fonty/Fuku
Lee
Soto
Hoffpauir
Fox
Blanco
Miles

Hope Demp has no-hitter stuff or it gets rained out again.

i'm just glad it's a night game. i've only been able to catch bits/pieces of these day games lately.

First sweep in over a month ... it feels so good. Let's keep it going on this road trip now.

Angels with some serious cubbery on ESPN... load the bases, 0 out, Abreu, Hunter, Guerrero due up, Abreu grounds into a 1-2-3 DP and Hunter pops out on the infield. 0 runs. Unreal.

ESPN also let sarge jr. cut a promo with interviews of him and father talking baseball for a segment.

must suck to be shunned by the establishment for all that involvement with PEDs.

wait...

more info on...

Angel Guzman (would be out 5 days but with long stretch without days off they couldn't afford to be without a pitcher)

more on Reed Johnson's weak/week back

Z goes directly to Detroit, skips Atlanta... to get his beauty rest

Rothschild away for funeral of a cousin

and Dempster's baby daughter leaving the hospital tuesday.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/16331...

Sounds like a tough road a head for the Dempster family. Here's hoping their little baby is going to be alright.

So Aaron Poreda sees Frank Thomas (who is a broadcaster now, apparently) interviewing another player and says, "That's a big guy, he should be an athlete." LOL! Hilarious, yet it occurs to me that Poreda probably didn't grow up with Frank Thomas and I did. Thanks for making me feel old, pecker.

So Cowley confirmed it was Poreda?

Someone confirmed it, I don't know who it was.

I can't believe this team is 2.5 out. What a crappy division.

I can't believe this team is 2.5 out
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The division is worse than that, the Cubs are tied for first in the loss column. Stl has played 5 more games.

The league isn't so hot either, after the Dodgers...the Cubs are also tied for 1st in the loss column for the Wildcard.

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  • bless your heart. *pinches cheeks*

    crunch 4 hours 5 min ago view
  • real shame I missed this week's episode of The Crunch Reporter.

    It's highly unusual.

    It does matter a little.

    It matters much less than you think.

     

     

    Rob G. 4 hours 7 min ago view
  • four winds field is awesome. it's crazy how minor league parks have "grown up" since the 80s/90s and that park was one of the late-80s models that showed a low-capacity ballpark could look like you're at something other than a highschool baseball game.

    crunch 5 hours 13 min ago view
  • On another topic....I returned to South Bend last night for the 2nd time this season (still haven't tried either the deep-fried mac & cheese sandwich nor "The Porknado", as the drive home is over an hour and that could get ugly), and was pleasantly surprised to find D. Underwood pitching in a rehab start. He looked good -- although, to be fair, these are low-A hitters -- fastball consistently at 94-95 (if the SB scoreboard is to be believed -- several pitches were clocked in the 30s...) and with good location.

    billybucks 6 hours 21 min ago view
  • he gains nothing, no advantage, no saving of resources, nothing...there is not a cost/benefit tradeoff...him letting the running game go on around him for others to control isn't gaining him an advantage elsewhere. it's putting him at a disadvantage even if it's not cashed in with a run.

    crunch 9 hours 1 min ago view
  • And out of respect for the rest of TCR, I'm done on this. I'm sure I'm not the only one in the other camp, but time to let it go. (Until the next Lester start. I kid.)

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 9 hours 4 min ago view
  • He is putting himself at a disadvanage. But how much of one relative to the rest of his game? He's not Justin Germano -- he's inarguably one of the best SPs in baseball, issue or not. It would be more of thing to discuss ad nauseum if it constantly caused him to give up runs and lose games. But it doesn't.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 9 hours 14 min ago view
  • shouting down my points about lester with "well, it didn't hurt" is like saying it doesn't matter if a guy starts out walking 3 guys every inning as long it's followed by a K and a double play.

    it's like elevating ERA and wins to a high level while ignoring what it took to get there.

    crunch 9 hours 20 min ago view
  • I'm asking how much it has hurt Lester and the Cubs this year. Do you have that answer?

    I legitimately don't recall you answering that quesion, apart from the condescending silliness you just posted. So if you did answer specifically about the impact of Lester's issue, I'd like to re-read it. Thanks.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 9 hours 33 min ago view
  • if runner = on base and pitcher = j.lester then lead = large

    if lead = large then probability of extra base on following hit > average of mean

    okay, enough of that silliness...

    ...you can read more on the thread i copy/pasted this from the last time you decided you needed to talk to me about me.

    crunch 9 hours 40 min ago view
  • Thank you for your answer.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 9 hours 43 min ago view
  • bless your heart.

    crunch 9 hours 44 min ago view
  • I don't recall you answering my question about quantifying how it has hurt Lester and the Cubs this season, apart from one guy scoring on a sac fly. Can you direct me to your answer? Thanks.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 9 hours 49 min ago view
  • Lester's personal catcher has an .809 OPS.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 9 hours 52 min ago view
  • we already has this asinine discussion. you didn't like the answer. there's already an answer above you can apply about how a guy goes from 1st base to home on a sac fly that included him stealing 3rd while lester watched from the mound. the fact that the cubs bats, 100% independent of that situation, scored some runs invalidates it as an issue to you. i find that stupid. we will not get anywhere with this. you know we will not get anywhere with this...because we already had this asinine discussion.

    #circularlogic

    crunch 9 hours 53 min ago view
  • it's not about SB...it never was.

    jake arrieta being slow to the plate isn't comparable to jon lester not throwing to any base. how the runners read off arrieta isn't anything similar to what a runner is reading off lester.

    maybe arrieta could use a personal catcher solely to control his running game...but i doubt it's that important.

    crunch 9 hours 57 min ago view