Two Teams for Every Cub (Beisbol City, Here We Come!)

CF Albert Hernandez singled and doubled and drove in two runs, and five Cubs pitchers combined to throw a two-hitter, as the DSL Cubs #1 defeated the DSL Tigers 7-3 yesterday afternoon on Dominican Summer League (DSL) Opening Day at Baseball City, near Boca Chica, DR.

box score

In other DSL Opening Day action, Miguel Gonzalez had three hits and drove in two runs, but the bullpen could not hold a 4-1 8th inning lead, as the DSL Orioles/Brewers co-op team took advantage of five errors to rally and edge DSL Cubs #2 5-4.

box score

20-year old Albert Hernandez hit .324 with 17 extra base hits in 54 DSL games last year, and he will likely be the star of DSL Cubs #1 (managed by ex-Cubs 1B prospect Alberto Garcia) this year, but the three most highly-regarded Cubs prospects playing in the DSL right now are 3B Joel Altagracia and SS Carlos Henry (both signed as 16-year olds by the Cubs during the International Signing Period last Summer), and Venezuelan catcher Ricardo Parra, who also signed last Summer and who turned 18 yesterday. (RHP Jose Tineo was signed to a substantial bonus as a 16-year old in July 2007, but he is not presently on a DSL Cubs Active List).  

Altagracia (signed for $140K) and Henry (signed for $110K) are now 17, and both are assigned to DSL Cubs #2, as is Parra. If all goes according to plan, I would expect to see all three of them at Fitch Park this time next year.

NOTE: 11 of the kids who played for Cubs DSL teams last season were invited to Fitch Park for Minor League Camp and Extended Spring Training this year, including RHP Rogelio Carmona, Eduardo Figueroa, George Pineda, and Andres Quezada (ex-OF), LHP Marcos Perez and Melvin Vasquez, catcher Juan Medina, infielder Robert Bautista, and outfielders Francisco Guzman (now at Peoria), Jesus Morelli, and Jose Valdez. Although they spent most or all of the 2008 season playing in the DSL, Figueroa, Carmona, and Quezada have been at Fitch Park before, and Medina was invited to the AZ Instructional League last Sepember.

Here are the rosters for DSL Cubs #1 and DSL Cubs #2: 

* bats or throws left
# bats both

DSL CUBS #1 (29 players):

PITCHERS (17):
Frank Batista
* Welington Cruz
Diego Encarnacion
Ramon Garcia
Luis Liria
Hector Mayorga
Jade Mendez
Enyelberth Pena
Roderik Pichardo
Ramon Reyes
Ramon Rivera 
Melvin Rosa 
* Abner Ruiz
Tomas Sanchez
Francisco Turbi 
Roberto Vargas 

CATCHERS (3):
Yonan Fuenmayor 
Carlos Romero
Jose Vigay

INFIELDERS (5):
# Arismendy Alcantara
Yohan Astacio
# Vismeldy Bieneme
Juan Pena
Jesus Rodriguez 

OUTFIELDERS (4):
Xavier Batista 
Gregori Gonzalez 
Albert Hernandez
Manuel Pestana

MANAGER
Alberto Garcia

COACHES
Ramon Caraballo (hitting coach)
Leo Hernandez (pitching coach)

 

DSL CUBS #2 (30 players):

PITCHERS (18)
Jane Bremon
Darlin Castro 
Antonio Encarnacion
Alvido Jimenez
* Richard Leyba 
Eric Martinez 
Pedro Medina (ex-OF)
Roneidy Mejia
Loiger Pardron
Amaury Paulino 
Felix Pena
Genezeret Pena
Roeldwin Reyes
Alberto Robles 
Santo Rodriguez
Braulio Rosario
Jose Rosario
Yilver Sanchez
Deuris Severino

CATCHERS  (3)
Yamel Liria
Ricardo Parra
# Hector Suarez 

INFIELDERS (6):
Joel Altagracia 
# Rafael Disla
Miguel Gonzalez
* Carlos Henry
# Jose Montecino
* Melido Perez

OUTFIELDERS (3):
Melvin Camarena
Jasly Gonzalez 
# Gregorio Robles

MANAGER:
Franklin Blanco

COACHES:
Leonel Perez
Anderson Tavarez

 

DSL CUBS – NOT ASSIGNED

NOTE: The following players were on DSL Cubs Reserve Lists prior to the start of Spring Training. A player on this list could be injured, or could be inactive for some other reason, or may have been released prior to the start of the DSL season.

PITCHERS:
Francisco Acosta
* Alfredo Belizaire
Miguel Corletto
Arturo Florentino (PED SUSPENSION)
* Carlos Galvez (PED SUSPENSION)
Joel Lanfranco
Jesse Lebron (PED SUSPENSION)
Maicol Medina
Starlin Peralta
Francoris Pineda
Rafael Ramirez
Jhon Rodriguez (PED SUSPENSION)
Jose Tineo (PED SUSPENSION)

CATCHERS:
NONE

INFIELDERS:
# Ramon Bonilla
# Alexander Mejia (PED SUSPENSION)
Carlos Morales
Miguel Salazar

OUTFIELDERS:
Alejandro Damian

Comments

any idea of the attendance?

Update on Josh Donaldson, now batting .450 - 12 RBI's in last 11 games

"Former first-round pick Josh Donaldson went 4-for-6 with a homer and two runs scored as Midland rallied to beat Tulsa, 11-9, in 13 innings on Saturday. Eight players had an RBI as the RockHounds extended their winning streak to six games."

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/minorleagues/team_index.jsp...

I wonder how Donaldson is doing defensively, he is still catching a lot for the Midland team. Also wonder if sending Jake Fox in that deal for Harden, instead of Donaldson, would have made more sense (assuming it was an option). If Donaldson ultimately can't catch at the mlb level I suppose they are about the same player although I suspect Donaldson will be better defensively than Fox no matter what position he winds up at.

Murton, EPat and Gallagher seem to have lost their way to the mlb club.

Calling Cubster!

text me, man!

As an aside, Murton is with the Rockies after a ST trade for Wimberly.

If Donaldsons future is at catcher, having Soto seemingly blocking him probably helped Hendry make his decision. Of course now that Soto is struggling everyone is free to second guess that one.

I am going to hazard two guesses.

Guess 1.

Billy Beane knows that RH hitting DH's don't have much value.

Guess 2.

Donaldson was the key to the deal.

I wonder what Frank Thomas, Jose Canseco, Edgar Martinez, etc would say to that?

They would say that they are the exception, not the rule.

FWIW, since Billy Beane took over as GM of the A's in 1998, players with the most at-bats at DH by season (6 LH, 1 SH, 5 RH):

2009 - Jack Cust LH
2008 - Frank Thomas RH
2007 - Mike Piazza RH
2006 - Frank Thomas RH
2005 - Scott Hatteberg LH
2004 - Erubial Durazo LH
2003 - Erubial Durazo LH
2002 - Ray Durham SH
2001 - Jeremy Giambi LH
2000 - John Jaha RH
1999 - John Jaha RH
1998 - Matt Stairs LH

Sure... but I still don't think that Billy Beane believes that RH DH prospects have much value.

Considering pretty much every guy on there is over 30, I get the feeling that Beane believes that a DH prospect is not really a prospect - that position can be filled easily by a veteran bat who can still hit but can't field well. I can't see him taking on a minor league player slotted for that position as a key portion of a deal either.

Yea... that was my (and I think Real Neal's) point.

Beane isn't interested in trading for a RH DH prospect.

Yeah, that was my point.

The fact that Sammy Sosa didn't have a job last year is probably a pretty good indication of how high GM's value that skill (or lack thereof) set.

OF Tyler Colvin was promoted to Tennessee today. In a corresponding move......OF Jericho Jones was promoted to high A Daytona. Both are excellent moves

Colvin's performance at Daytona has not inspired any confidence that he has progressed to perform at Tennessee. He was injured and recovering, so there may be some leeway. Also certain players seem to hit much better at Tennessee than Daytona (not sure why, perhaps park dimensions). But reports seem to indicate that Colvin will never hit good pitching; his best hope may be a fifth OF and even then I wouldn't expect him to be much above a .200 hitter in the majors.

Jericho Jones has hit since we have gotten him. I have much more hope for him to become a prospect. Or restated, I believe the probability that he will be a useful major leaguer is, unlike Colvin, greater than zero.

I'm not inspired by a scouting staff that picks Colvin over Tim Lincecum and Evan Longoria, both picked after Colvin.

both picked before, actually...colvin was a 13th pick. longoria was a #3 pick who should have gone #1, but the rockies and royals were severely mentally retarded in 06, evidently.

Ah, the site I am looking at doesn't have them in order.

Thanks for that clarification. I feel better now.

Intrigued with Albert Hernandez. Granted, it's DSL, but performance is performance.

There was an arm last year, Marcos Perez, who had good numbers. Any idea where he is? I know the DSL has a bigger strike zone, but he did have some very intriguing numbers. Also curious about Ramon Reyes.

Tineo has to get his control under wraps. Too many walks last year.

CHAD GAUDIN K'ed 9 and walked nobody today.
picks up the win for the Padres
6.1 IP , 1 ER

Where all this pinpoint control came from is a mystery.
He'd issued 26 walks in 33.1 IP prior to this start.

Marcos Perez is at Fitch Park. Ramon Reyes is with DSL #1. Tineo, I believe is another PED casualty.

Thanks. Dunno how I missed Marcos Perez being there.

Yeah, I knew Reyes was with DSL 1. Was just curious if AzPhil had any information on him.

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Wonder if there is any news on our LA pursuits this year. Last I heard, there was some murmuring of us having a shot at one of the top kids, Sano I think.

Today's lineup:
Soriano, LF
Theriot, SS
Bradley, RF
Lee, 1B
Johnson, CF
Soto, C
Scales, 2B
Fontenot, 3B
MARSHALL, P

Only Theriot and Johnson in this lineup have a higher batting average than Marshall (.250).

Lou confirms that Marshall will head to the pen when Harden comes off the DL.

is there any reason fukudome doesn't get to face lefties this year? he's not even getting casual AB's vs. them...he could easily be paced to get 20 ab's or so all year if he keeps up his current use.

I think Lou is just spooked about how bad he looked in some at bats vs lefties last year. I think he's been so improved this year that maybe it is a chance to give him a look.

The Cubs hadn't faced very many lefties up until this series.

well his use last year vs. this year is pretty extreme...esp. given he did well vs. lefties last year (better than righties, only without power).

i'm just wondering how he went from doing well in normal use to being not used at all.

09 - 5ab (+1bb)
08 - 127ab (+21bb)

Also, Reed hits lefties well. I think Lou would be afraid to put Fukudome out there, have him struggle for a game against a lefty, and then lose the rhythm and confidence he has built up.

well, he seems to handle lefties well except for 1 or 2 of his 5 ab's this year.

he hit them better than righties last year...just wondering why he's auto-kyrpotnite this year.

i don't expect him to get 200+ab vs. lefties, but 5 is kinda sketchy. wondering what's up.

20 pts of batting average in less PA's with a smaller walk rate and less power is not hitting them better, it's getting luckier on a few hits.

you still defending soriano leading off, too? =p

all i wanna know is why he's an auto-replacement vs. a lefty this year vs. last year...he's getting a nearly straight-platoon treatment right down to being subbed for vs. lefties in games he starts.

you still defending soriano leading off, too? =p

don't have much of a problem with it, no. He'd be sucking now batting 5th or 1st. It's called a slump. Giving more PA's to your better hitters is never a bad strategy. I don't think his sub-Mendoza batting average with RISP would really be helping much further down in the order though.

all i wanna know is why he's an auto-replacement vs. a lefty this year
vs. last year...he's getting a nearly straight-platoon treatment right
down to being subbed for vs. lefties in games he starts.

if I could draw a map on here I would, but I'll try to explain it you. See, last year there was Soriano (he bats right-handed btw), Edmonds (he bats left-handed btw) and Fukudome (he bats left-handed) starting and Reed Johnson off the bench (he bats right-handed).  So with Soriano being better versus lefties in his career and not a platoon player by any means, Johnson was going to get his at-bats for either Fukudome or Edmonds...most of the time it was for Edmond because for most of his career he hasn't hit lefties too well. And if I recall this correctly, Fukudome did start losing AB's to lefties as the season went on and he started sucking more and more.

This year, the starting lineup is Soriano (still bats righties and still hits better off lefties), Fukduome and Bradley (he's a switch-hitter that has an OPS 100 pts higher from the right side for his career). So who do you think Reed Johnson is going to take AB's from considering he has a career .833 OPS versus lefties and an .848 one last year?

I hope that explains it sufficiently.

the other argument might be to get him in there since he's doing so well against the other side. It's not a confidence builder to get benched when a lefty is on the mound. I think Fukodome MIGHT be demonstrating that that doesn't matter. I'm still nervous whenever I see him hit. I swear to god last year I saw him corkscrew himself about 10 feet into the ground about 50 times, and it wasn't just against lefties.

hit 2 grand slams today for Daytona...

most exciting Cubs news of the day.

As exciting as that was, Chirinos is an older guy.

I'm more excited about/intrigued with

Cashner's 4 ip, 1 bb. Don't mind the lack of K's for now.

Rosa's 2/4, 2 2B, 1 R, 1 RBI. I like him a lot, and here's hoping he can break out soon and force ryan Keedy aside (let me explain that, if Vitters goes up to daytona, as I suspect should happen within the next few weeks barring a huge slump, Vitters will get most of the 3rd base time, likely pushing Rosa back to more 1st base, which might be his future anyways)

Henry Williamson - 3 shutout ip, 3 h, 2 K's. The other arm in the Pie trade has been fairly solid.

Kevin Hart - 6 ip, 2 h, 1 r (solo shot), 7 K's, 1 HBP. No, he's not anything more than a middle reliever, but he is on the 40 man.

Can't parachat today so that reliever for the Dodgers? I knew on his first pitch he was a rally killer. Nasty bastard. Good test for Micah, too, and he did get some wood on it.

Well if Joe Morgan doesn't like the DeRosa trade then I sure as hell don't.

Joe isn't wrong. Hendry did a bad, bad thing.

Yeah, if we had DeRosa instead of Bradley we'd easily be two games over .500.

It's hard to evaluate a team when their ability to work the count has changed so much.

You can't blame the hitting coach cuz he was credited with getting them there in the first place. But you have to blame him a bit cuz why aren't they doing it now? It's not cuzza Fukkay. He's like the only decent hitter on this team right now.

MB is, sadly, the key to this team. He needs to accept his new responsibility and kick it into high gear, and it MAY mean showing some fucking class once in awhile in the face of someone pouring down racist hate on his ass.

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  • I am right there with you closing in on 60.

    I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.

    There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.

    Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.

    I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.

    The E-Man 20 min 7 sec ago view
  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 27 min 46 sec ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 39 min 30 sec ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 41 min 19 sec ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 1 hour 3 min ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 1 hour 4 min ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 1 hour 12 min ago view
  • Here are some possible corresponding minor league moves we might see in the aftermath  of the Chapman trade: 

    SOUTH BEND to MYRTLE BEACH: OF Donnie Dewees and INF Bryant Flete  

    EUGENE to SOUTH BEND: OF Robert Garcia and INF Vimael Machin 

    There is really no reason to replace Billy McKinney at Tennessee because both Chris Coghlan and Jorge Soler are doing their rehab at Tennessee.  

    And there are plenty of pitchers at Iowa. No need to replace Warren at AAA. .  

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 33 min ago view
  • I am 70 years old. The Cubs last played in the World Series in 1945. I was born in 1946. I hate to lose a prospect like Torres, but when the opportunity is there to get that World Series ring, you go for it. This was the idea in stock piling all this young talent. I would like to see Reddick added now and the Cubbies should be done.

    Hagsag 2 hours 3 min ago view
  • I would expect Richard to accept an optional assignment because based on how he's played this season, there is a decent chance that he won't find work elsewhere. Rather stay and potentially get a ring. Same goes for Coghlan since he's struggled mightily this year.

    Edwards should not go down. He's pitched very well and Maddon is very impressed with him. I would expect Grimm to go down for Cahill so he can get back on track (he's pitched better in July, but he's not getting enough appearances).

    chitownmvp01 2 hours 7 min ago view
  • chitownmvp01: Indeed Clayton Richard would seem to be odd man out once Chapman reports, but Richard might accept a minor league assignment if he is promised a return to Chicago on 9/1 when MLB Active List rosters expand (Richard has minor league ioptions left).

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 10 min ago view
  • The only player in the deal that would cause me a second thought is Gleyber Torres.

    McKinney and Crawford are decent prospects but both are redundant/replaceable in the system and Warren was really only a middle-reliever or #6 starter, so to me it's really just Torres for Chapman.

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 30 min ago view
  • There is no Comp pick for players traded mid-season. 2+ months of Chapman is it.

    mbauer 2 hours 32 min ago view
  • to get one of the best you have to give up one/some of your best...but it's a bit painful to watch the system's best prospect walk for any 2-3 month rental, especially one that's not an everyday player.

    crunch 2 hours 35 min ago view
  • I assume Chapman will replace Richard on the roster, but who goes down when Cahill gets activated? Maybe Grimm?

    And when Soler and Coghlan get healthy, how do they fit them on the roster when they're ready to be activated?

    chitownmvp01 2 hours 38 min ago view
  • We are giving up a lot, but it's not like we're trading Addison Russell for 2+ months of Jason Hammel. When impact players become available, they are going to cost you. The other bids could also have been high.

    Having Chapman as a rental is potentially less disruptive than having him come in with an extension in place. 

    CTSteve 2 hours 40 min ago view