Game 81 Thread/ Cubs @ White Sox (2 of 3)

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SP Sean Gallagher SP Javier Vazquez
  3-3, 3.97, 39 K, 19 BB, 47.2 IP
7-6, 4.24, 97 K, 29 BB, 107 IP
       
RF *Kosuke Fukudome SS Orlando Cabrera
LF Mark DeRosa C *A.J. Pierzynski
1B Derrek Lee LF Carlos Quentin
DH *Daryle Ward RF Jermaine Dye
3B Aramis Ramirez DH *Jim Thome
CF *Jim Edmonds 3B Joe Crede
C Geovany Soto 1B #Nick Swisher
2B *Mike Fontenot 2B Alexei Ramirez
SS Ronny Cedeno CF *Dewayne Wise

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  Some juggling of the 2, 4, and 5 spots in the Cubs lineup today, and Theriot sits for another game.  Ramirez plays for Uribe, otherwise the same lineup for the Sox.  Today also marks the half-way point in the Cubs' season, with a win putting the Cubs exactly on pace for 100.  Cubs beat Vazquez pretty easily last time; this is Gallagher's first time facing the Sox.

 

AZ PHIL UPDATE: Prior to the game, the Cubs placed LHP Scott Eyre on the 15-day DL (groin), and recalled RHP Jose Ascanio from AAA Iowa. 

Ascanio just recently returned to the Iowa Cubs from Venezuela, after missing about ten days (Bereavement Leave and then visa problems) while attending his brother's funeral. 

Although Ascanio is one of the Cubs top pitching prospects, and while he does have MLB experience, the Cubs probably would have preferred to bring up a pitcher who can throw more than one inning (Ascanio is Iowa's closer), but Kevin Hart (concussion) and Randy Wells (leg) are injured, and MLB veterans Mike Burns and Hector Carrasco threw a lot of pitches the last couple of days. (The Cubs could transfer RHP Chad Fox to the 60-day DL if they need to open a slot on the 40-man roster for Wells, Burns, or Carrasco at some point down the line).

 

Comments

Get out the Questec.

What's up with Theriot?

I swear, Soto hits into more hard-luck outs than anyone I have seen.

Theriot may just be getting an extended rest. Lou's talked about how he wants to keep him fresher this season, so that he doesn't fade toward the end of the year as he did in '07.

Theriot has a swollen hand and was supposedly available to pinch hit today.

Damn, Ozzie... you must be hoping this doesn't go to extras. Already burnt through 4 pitchers now?

That Thornton guy's pretty good.

lol... Fox catching Woodie giving someone the bird.

Sonofabitch.

Nice. Back that bastard off. Plunk him if you want.

Why, Carlos? Whyyyyy?

Carlos Marmol... I'd like you to meet my friend, Law of Averages.

Two pitches, two outs. Is this 2006 again?

I fully expect the Cubs to get swept tomorrow in Comiskullar.

These teams are separated by a game or two in the history of this series, so its about right.

The entire team is in a funk, and undergoing myriad injuries, which as we all see, puts us at a major talent disadvantage on the roster.

We still are in first place, but with a couple more sweeps in short order will allow both the Cardinals and Brew to catch us.

Fuck You LaRussa!

Holy fuck. The ninth inning vs Jenks was a fucking nightmare. This cold streak is making us feel like shit.

Funny how a couple games can change opinions. Yes, we're still a good team, but that doesn't mean we don't have our share of problems.

We can only hope that Sean Marshall has the game of his life tomorrow so we can salvage a game. I'm not overly optimistic but stranger things have happened. Aram not getting the ball up for a sac fly was horrible but that would have only tied the game, I wouldn't have been really confident we would win the game but it would have obviously better than not scoring there.

Quentin's HR was kind of a fluke. Half swing opposite field job. Crede's play on Soto was probably the biggest of the game.

So much for everyone who wanted to move Lee down in the lineup? See he's still good :)

A-Ram has sucked since he turned 30. When will Vitters be ready? (I kid.)

Somebody check Alexi Ramirez's bat -- he weighs 58 pounds, and take s alow and away slider out to LF? Please.

Pretty gutsy performance by Gallagher -- the wind hurt him a couple of times.

I'm not worried about our offense.
Our starting pitching went to shit this week. That's going to be the key.
The injuries are catching up with us. We've lost 7 of 11, but still have at least a 3.5 game lead, which is probably what it was before the funk began. We'll snap out of it, as long as the starting pitching keeps us in ball games.

Bah...this losing is no good.

your team is leading by 3...you have a 2 for 3 day going...you have a bad AB and follow it up by going back to the dugout and throwing bats/helmets...again...

kevin youkilis is quickly trying to lay his claim to the "most selfish and self-centered" baseball player ever award.

how many times do your own teammates have to call you out...or take a swing at you...before that chills out?

"motivated" is one thing..."hyped" is one thing...but this level of personal greed goes beyond what anyone could ever label tony gwynn with. at least gwynn didn't act like a privileged 5 year old when his days didn't go swell.

denny mclain is my personal award winner, btw. all he cares about is himself.

guy makes mike marshall look modest, saintly, and reserved. imo.

It's cool though, dude. He gets on base at like .700 or something. He's a sabermetrician's wet dream. Couldn't possibly do anything wrong.

this day in baseball really sucked.

Cubs are going to have their hands full trying just to get in the playoffs much less win the division.
But all did not suck today.

Kevin Hart got a start and pitched a perfect three innings with five K's.

Cancel all September plans -- the last 3 weeks of the season should be great fun -- 6 games each against the Cards and the Brewers, with a 7-game "tell me what happens, I can't bear to watch" season-ending 7-game trip to NY and MIL. Yikes.

FOX got their money's worth today. Great game, lousy result.

One of Lilly, Marquis or Gallagher need to be consistently good in the 2nd half of the season. Better health would be nice, too.

This game may have been a career-defining type game for a kid like Gallagher. Lou stuck with him long after I would have expected him too, and the kid showed a lot of grit hanging in there the whole time after starting off not so good. Smart managing by Lou, and it paid off for this game at least. Showing that kind of confidence, despite the early lambasting, should help Gallagher in the future.

gallagher got better after lous motivational speech,
hopefully lou gives marshall that same speech but
before the bottom of the first,this game is marshalls
chance to uphis value or he can get a ticket to iowa.

Jared Weaver is throwing a no-no and still losing 1-0 after 6. He had a fielding error and then the catcher had a throwing error on a steal by Kemp. Can you still be credited with a no-hitter if you only throw 8 IP (game at Chavez Ravine)? I think the rule is you have to throw 9, because a Pirates pitcher went 12 1/3 with one and didnt get credit.

(Update): Vin Scully is better than Google. Yes you can legally have a 8 IP No-no. Weaver is currently out of the game after 6.

Kurkjian said that they changed the rule. Have to pitch 9.

Then the team throwing the no-hitter should have the option of to play the bottom of 9th then. Its kind of dumb to punish a pitching staff for a fielder's error. This case its a little differnt since the 1st error was made by Weaver.

final...Twinkies 5, Brewers 0. Sheets get a loss.

...c'mon Royals, you can rally

corey provis on wgn radio said...

Z pitched 3 sets of 20 pitches, no problems. Expect his to throw on the side tues and start Fri vs Stl

Theriot in the lineup tonight bats 2nd at SS

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  • four winds field is awesome. it's crazy how minor league parks have "grown up" since the 80s/90s and that park was one of the late-80s models that showed a low-capacity ballpark could look like you're at something other than a highschool baseball game.

    crunch 54 min 41 sec ago view
  • On another topic....I returned to South Bend last night for the 2nd time this season (still haven't tried either the deep-fried mac & cheese sandwich nor "The Porknado", as the drive home is over an hour and that could get ugly), and was pleasantly surprised to find D. Underwood pitching in a rehab start. He looked good -- although, to be fair, these are low-A hitters -- fastball consistently at 94-95 (if the SB scoreboard is to be believed -- several pitches were clocked in the 30s...) and with good location.

    billybucks 2 hours 3 min ago view
  • he gains nothing, no advantage, no saving of resources, nothing...there is not a cost/benefit tradeoff...him letting the running game go on around him for others to control isn't gaining him an advantage elsewhere. it's putting him at a disadvantage even if it's not cashed in with a run.

    crunch 4 hours 43 min ago view
  • And out of respect for the rest of TCR, I'm done on this. I'm sure I'm not the only one in the other camp, but time to let it go. (Until the next Lester start. I kid.)

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 4 hours 46 min ago view
  • He is putting himself at a disadvanage. But how much of one relative to the rest of his game? He's not Justin Germano -- he's inarguably one of the best SPs in baseball, issue or not. It would be more of thing to discuss ad nauseum if it constantly caused him to give up runs and lose games. But it doesn't.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 4 hours 56 min ago view
  • shouting down my points about lester with "well, it didn't hurt" is like saying it doesn't matter if a guy starts out walking 3 guys every inning as long it's followed by a K and a double play.

    it's like elevating ERA and wins to a high level while ignoring what it took to get there.

    crunch 5 hours 1 min ago view
  • I'm asking how much it has hurt Lester and the Cubs this year. Do you have that answer?

    I legitimately don't recall you answering that quesion, apart from the condescending silliness you just posted. So if you did answer specifically about the impact of Lester's issue, I'd like to re-read it. Thanks.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 15 min ago view
  • if runner = on base and pitcher = j.lester then lead = large

    if lead = large then probability of extra base on following hit > average of mean

    okay, enough of that silliness...

    ...you can read more on the thread i copy/pasted this from the last time you decided you needed to talk to me about me.

    crunch 5 hours 21 min ago view
  • Thank you for your answer.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 25 min ago view
  • bless your heart.

    crunch 5 hours 26 min ago view
  • I don't recall you answering my question about quantifying how it has hurt Lester and the Cubs this season, apart from one guy scoring on a sac fly. Can you direct me to your answer? Thanks.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 31 min ago view
  • Lester's personal catcher has an .809 OPS.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 34 min ago view
  • we already has this asinine discussion. you didn't like the answer. there's already an answer above you can apply about how a guy goes from 1st base to home on a sac fly that included him stealing 3rd while lester watched from the mound. the fact that the cubs bats, 100% independent of that situation, scored some runs invalidates it as an issue to you. i find that stupid. we will not get anywhere with this. you know we will not get anywhere with this...because we already had this asinine discussion.

    #circularlogic

    crunch 5 hours 35 min ago view
  • it's not about SB...it never was.

    jake arrieta being slow to the plate isn't comparable to jon lester not throwing to any base. how the runners read off arrieta isn't anything similar to what a runner is reading off lester.

    maybe arrieta could use a personal catcher solely to control his running game...but i doubt it's that important.

    crunch 5 hours 39 min ago view
  • Can you quantify how this has hurt Lester/the Cubs this season?

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 39 min ago view
  • Is WISCGRAD still around? Here's a project for him or anyone else who would be interested...

    Lester's allowed 22 SBs. How many of those have scored and how many games did the Cubs lose due to them?

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 45 min ago view