Cubs Survey: What was the Worst Cubs Lineup Mistake?

Today's lineup against the Marlins is Fukudome, Theriot, Byrd, Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, Soto, Castro and Wells. I understand giving your vets a chance to break out of their slumps and all, but moving them down in the order when you have Soriano and Soto hitting the way they are isn't going to really hurt anyone's feelings. And if they do, fuck them.

Anyway, I was curious if leaving Lee and Ramirez in the middle of the order to kill rallies is one of the worse or the worst thing we've seen since Dusty Baker.

Vote below or follow this link.

For what it's worth, Soriano hit 298/347/530 out of the leadoff spot in 2007 and 2008. He hit 228/295/421 out of the leadoff spot in the 70 games he played there in 2009, so that one never really bothered me much until last year, although I know many of you felt it was on par with killing a kitten.


The embedding seems to pop up a new layer that you may have problems with it, so just follow the link if that's the case.

Comments

Speaking of Dusty, I was going to post when do the Cubs travel to Montreal? So Lou can get the middle night call from Lee and Aram saying it's okay to move them down the line up.

Survey result-

Neifi today, Neifi tomorrow, Neifi forever!!!!!

I went with Neifi myself...

he has the double whammy of no career success with almost no in-season success as well.

at least Corey was coming off a strong half season in 2003.

and for full disclosure: I came up with this list in about 5 minutes.

I thought Neifi batting anywhere in 2005 and 2006 would have been the runaway winner.

For what it's worth...I voted Neifi as well.

Good job.

Link won't let me back.

Neifi batting 6th was my favorite.

a poll about which 3-4m dollar manager sucked worse. awesome.

how about we don't pay our next manager as if he's someone who actually picks up a bat or ball and plays the game?

so it have been okay if the same lineup mistakes were made and Jim Essian was the manager?

if it allows us to use that 2.5-3m+ on a...oh...right handed reliever.

sure.

baseball managers are so vastly overrated it's not even funny. you can go into almost any lockerroom out there and almost every player will tell you they see and hear a lot more out of their coaches than their manager. the overpriced babysitter manager is...bleh.

How long is Jaramillo's contract? If it's longer than a year, well, hello new manager.

imo, i think rickets is carrying around an erection waiting for sandberg to come in and run his on-field toy.

I agree...but Jarry is sure earning a lot of money. Stick with it. Then Koyie Hill can be a player/hitting coach. Problem solved.

"For what it's worth, Soriano hit 298/347/530 out of the leadoff spot in 2007 and 2008. He hit 228/295/421 out of the leadoff spot in the 70 games he played there in 2009, so that one never really bothered me much until last year, although I know many of you felt it was on par with killing a kitten."

the problem wasn't that soriano wasn't producing in the 1 slot...it's that in those years he was the best power hitter on the team and was slotted somewhere not fitting to his tools.

62 homers, 69 doubles, 5 triples...136 xbase hits for 145 RBIs

yeah, that was awful when the Cubs led the league in scoring in 2008

my point is i think it could have been better.

136 xbase hits for 145rbis is beyond pathetic...finding out those 136 xbase hits happened over a 2 season injury-shortened stretch (some of which he couldn't run and had no business in the leadoff spot) rather than 3 seasons makes it even worse to me.

my point is i think it could have been better.

or worse, or the same. My vote is probably the same. You'd be giving more PA's to an inferior hitter to offset the extra couple of runs that Soriano would have driven in over the other #5 hitters.

Good to know everyone still hates Neifi...64% so far of the vote with Derrek/Aramis in 2nd at 18%

We don't hate Neifi, it's just that unlike our manager we were able to recongize him for the player that he was.

74% on Neifi now, with lee/Ramirez in 2nd at 12%

Recent comments

Subscribe to Recent comments
The first 600 characters of the last 16 comments, click "View" to see rest of comment.
  • Have fun - It may be good for Arrieta to be facing a team that doesn't know him as well as the NL teams. A nice shutout would do wonders for his confidence. He is confident in public but baseball is hard and he could use a boost, I'm sure.

    Old and Blue 13 min 25 sec ago view
  • Me too. I'll be at the game tomorrow and would love to see Good Arrieta.

    Brick 38 min 4 sec ago view
  • Last few games have been the April version of the Cubs that disappeared completely the past two months.
    Hope they can sustain it.

    blockhead25 1 hour 4 min ago view
  • Don't sell yourself short, Judge.

    Jackstraw 1 hour 31 min ago view
  • I love this team.

    Looks like Mother Nature is trying to call this fight.

    Rob Richardson 2 hours 59 min ago view
  • Hey! I remember this team!

    billybucks 3 hours 8 min ago view
  • The key for Heyward's offense: get early leads. Heard a stat on Mike & Mike on the way to work that his avg/power much better this year when the Cubs have the lead. And true to form he gets the two run dinger with Cubs winning 3-0 ...

    Eric S 4 hours 34 min ago view
  • I'm sorry - I was probably not looking at the correct line, or spot, or...who knows!

    I could blame it on the weed, but I stopped smoking many years ago.

    Fortunately, I can rely on the rest of you sober and astute folks to bring the correct info forth.

    The E-Man 5 hours 2 min ago view
  • Oh yeah! It just felt like one for some reason.

    Old and Blue 6 hours 7 min ago view
  • Agreed. I was not including Fowler or Heyward.

    I'm just not a fan of 2016 Coghlan.....

    Dusty Baylor 6 hours 14 min ago view
  • @Dusty Contreras if it's a Lester or Arrieta start. TLS is good PH too. You also forgot about Heyward, assume Fowler is CF.

    chitownmvp01 6 hours 15 min ago view
  • I expect Soler to get optioned as well when activated and Cahill to replace Grimm. It wouldn't surprise me if Coghlan and/or Soler is included in a trade.

    Maybe Coghlan is up to see if he can get on track before someone acquires him.

    This move could also be to assure that we have as much OF depth as possible to maximize Joe's ability to rest players in September once we've clinched.

    chitownmvp01 6 hours 17 min ago view
  • Maddon basically said as much...Fowler still kind of sore, they're being proactive, etc.

    Tito 6 hours 20 min ago view
  • La Stella at 2B...Baez at 3B, or vice versa. Zobrist in RF, Bryant in LF No one gets bumped.

    Dusty Baylor 6 hours 28 min ago view
  • If Coghlan is leading off, I assume Fowler is getting the day off. Who is supposed to lead off, then? Someone has to get on base for Bryant and Rizzo. Coghlan's OBP is .346 with the Cubs. Jackson's was .304. LaStella can lead off, but then he has to play second or third, and bump Zobrist or Baez.

    Unless he gets hot, Coghlan will likely change places with Soler soon.

    VirginiaPhil 6 hours 30 min ago view
  • I suspect the Cubs asked Chris Coghlan if he would accept an Optional Assignment to the minors and he refused (Coghlan has one minor league option left), so either you keep LaStella on the 25 and release Coghlan, or option LaStella to AAA for about a month and have both LaStella and Coghlan available in September-October. (As an Article XIX-A player, Coghlan must give his permission before he can be optioned to the minors, while LaStella has not accrued enough MLB Service Time to refuse an optional assignment).

    Arizona Phil 6 hours 50 min ago view