Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
Bruce Levine on ESPN1000 is reporting that the Cubs have come to terms with recently released Blue Jay Reed Johnson. Johnson was a 17th round pick of the Blue Jays in 1999, back when Tim Wilkin was running things over there and I'm sure the connection helped his cause with the Cubs. He's mostly played the corner outfield spots in his career, but has played 64 games in center in the majors. He had a great 2006, hitting 319/390/479, but has a career line of 281/342/410 with little ability to steal a base. He's also coming off a back injury that derailed his 2007 season. His scouting report on TSN.ca says:
Hustle is his strongest suit. He makes consistent contact and hits well with runners in scoring position--especially against lefties.
Hustle? Mix that with a little grit and you've got yourself a ballpayer.
BP projected him at 262/324/387 this year which certainly isn't encouraging. On the other hand, he's hit 308/371/462 versus lefties over his career, and that'll likely be his primary role with the Cubs. It's a low-risk, high reward deal for the Cubs to fill out the need for a right-handed hitting center field option. If he stinks up the joint, he'll be easy to cut, and if he hits and plays "good enough" center field defense, it'll be a wise, low-cost move that didn't cost us any trade chips.











# Re: Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
it'll be interesting to see what this does for the Cubs bench...
Epat got sent down today, but will this cost Murton his job?
Blanco, Ward, Johnson seem set
Two spots for
Murton, Fontenot, Cedeno and Cintron
Cedeno is out of options, so he seems like a no-brainer and that means one spot for Murton, Fontenot or Cintron. It'll depend if they want an extra infielder or outfielder.
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Gotta think that Murton and Cedeno are the two there, unless Cedeno gets shipped out for Roberts. In that case, of course, the bench gets much better. Murton's of no value in the minors and the Cubs probably want him up in case Fuku has trouble with lefties. Cintron's had a few injuries - might he start the year on the DL?
# For a small market team
Murton might have more value in trade if we kept him in the minors to "save" his Free Agent clock, so I could see them keeping Cintron, especially because Dero can be used in the OF.
# Re: For a small market team
Murton should see plenty of PT with KFuk's struggles against LHP and Soriano's gimpy legs. No reason you cannot get 200-225 at bats out of him at this point. He has more value on the roster than he does in a trade at this point, IMHO.
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A Very Cubby comment -- but, right now, this is a fun team to root for. From an outsider's perspective (and having briefly met the players/coaches with my 10-year old son at a "meet the team" function at Wrigley last year):
- Ward, Theriot, DeRosa and Dempster seem like very good guys who you enjoy rooting for
- Kerry Wood represents everything Chicagoans want to see in themselves - talented, tough and resilient
- It will be fun to watch Pie and Fukudome play the OF and gun down runners
- Zambrano could be great
- Lee and Ramirez bring stability to the lineup and have been fixtures for a while
- Marmol coming into a game is an electric event
- Rich Hill's curve can be a thing of beauty
Never sure about the "chemistry" thing, but this would be a fun bunch to get behind.
# Re: Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
Oh come on, it has to be Murton & Cedeno. What kind of team would send those two down to the minors when they'll obviously need them mid-season?
....oh wait
# Re: Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
I like it. Low risk, decent reward.
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Also, quote of the day, which I saw on Yahoo.
"Apparently, J.D. Drew is in midseason form."
Brilliant.
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# Re: Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
While I mocked the idea of Johnson losing his spot to Eckstein in the previous thread, I do like this deal.
It does seem like a very low risk, moderate reward deal.
And if he can just be decent against LHP, he will be able to fill his needed role.
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# I like the deal
but I kinda hope we don't just run Johnson out there to start the year. It's time that we give Pie a decent shot, and hurting his confidence by platooning him is not the way to go. Hopefully Johnson is a bench player that can become a platoon (or, ugh, regular) player if needed.
# Re: I like the deal
That won't be an issue, at least right off the bat.
Pie will be starting in CF, Johnson will be a bench player.
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# Re: Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
Unless Pie does some really bad playing in the next couple of games or gets hurt, I think he will be playing the majority of the games
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# Re: Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
Hey..until Pie can hit at leat .670 in ST, he has no business in the majors...
After all, the Cubs have soured on him.....I bet we can get Juan Pierre for Pie, Murton, and Gallagher?
(please note sarcasm)
# Re: Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
Throw in Pat Burrell and you have a deal.
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# One would have to think
Murton's OBP, nice average (even though ST), and the fact that he gets his uniform soiled often, should be the guy getting the gig.
Fonty is...well, Fonty. With Ward, Dome, and Pie, its probably gonna be enough.
DeRosa and Dumb-ass Ronny should be sufficient to cover IF replacement needs, I'd think.
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# Cubs Preview for Deadspin
Kinda shows why most other fans think Cub fans are not too bright-
http://deadspin.com/371030/baseball-season-preview...
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# Re: Cubs Preview for Deadspin
I know, but he had the Cubs beating the Pirates for their last World Series victory in Wrigley Field.
Cmon.
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# Re: Cubs Preview for Deadspin
That wasn't the only oversight.
There was this:
Add Fuko to the mix, and the Cubs now have four .300 hitters capable of 40-45 home runs and 100-125 RBIs.
I will tell you this... if the Cubs have 4 guys who hit 40+ homeruns, they will be in the World Series.
And although Soriano will probably insist on leading off, with Barrett finally gone, this year he should get more chances to knock in hitters from the bottom of the order.
Umm... what? I have no idea how Barrett being gone will have anything to do with Soriano have more to knock in.
Oh yea... and they are going to "sign" Roberts?
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the Cubs now have four .300 hitters capable of 40-45 home runs and 100-125 RBIs.
I would be willing to bet we don't have one guy who hits 40 HR's, let alone bats .300 AND gets 100 RBI's.
But we do have 3 that are capable (Alf, ARam and Lee), but there is no way in the world K-Fuk puts up those kind of numbers, not even close.
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# Re: Cubs Preview for Deadspin
Clearly it was Michael Barrett who confused the facts for this poor writer. MB just can't leave people alone.
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# Re: Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
$1.3 MM? I mean, who were they bidding against? It's not a ton of money, but it looks like he's already getting 750K from the Jays. They couldn't have offered him league min or 500K?
# Roster set
Roster has really shaken itself out.
Soto
Lee
DeRosa
Theriot
Ramirez
Sori
Pie
KFuk
Blanco
Ward
Reed Johnson
Murton
Cedeno
With Fontenot in Iowa if an infielder goes down and Fuld/EPatt there if an outfielder goes down.
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I have a question...Johnson had a relatively large contract with the Blue Jays, no? And since he was released, they're on the hook for most of it, correct? So if the Cubs go to arbitration, are they responsible for offering him 80% of his Blue Jays salary at minimum? If so, then he wouldn't be that cheap. Or am I missing something?
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# Re: Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
He signed a 1 year, 3.275M contract.
I believe that since it was a one year deal, it is not guaranteed. Toronto still has to pay him $750,000, but the actual contract is void, I believe.
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Plus he kind of looks like the Drowning Pool guitarist. So that's a good thing I suppose.
... just sayin'.
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# Re: Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
Like this pickup.
And did anybody catch Mariotti's column today? Mindless snarkiness for snarkiness' sake.
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# Re: Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
While I am not expecting much out of Johnson until he can prove he is healthy, this move is fine IMO. Now paying him $1.3 million is a little much, but fairly low risk. Murton might be the odd man out, which should anger many Cubs fans but oh well, if things go well that spot should get like 200-250 AB's all year. Now Reed has barely played CF the past few years, so that along with his bat could be a problem, but shouldn't be a disaster.
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# Reed Johnson is a First Half Kind of Guy
and that's what you need if you want to get off to a fast start.
Career before the All-Star break:
.298 .365 .444 .809
# Re: Reed Johnson is a First Half Kind of Guy
Of course... that number is a bit distorted by his huge '06 outlier.
03: .313 .365 .475 .840 (198 PAs)
04: .277 .332 .397 .729 (357 PAs)
05: .267 .339 .443 .782 (233 PAs)
06: .365 .451 .507 .958 (235 PAs)
07: .244 .320 .378 .698 (51 PAs)
Of course... also had a .409 BABIP in the first half of 06. So in other words... he was really lucky.
Don't get me wrong - he has been in first half than the second half, but his numbers appear to be pretty distorted because of one very good half of a season.
Again... I don't hate the signing, and believe he will be a solid RH bench player who will see playing time against RHP. But that is about it.
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# Re: Reed Johnson is a First Half Kind of Guy
Doh. And I waited too long to edit it.
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# Re: Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
I wouldn't be so quick to punch Fontenot's ticket to Iowa. With Fukudome and Pie starting, the only LH bat on the bench is Ward. I'd be looking for a Cedeno waiver deal, or Murton goes to AAA instead of Fontenot.
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# Re: Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
Clearly your hatred of Matt Murton has made you delusional
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# Re: Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
Murton will be Kfuk's Platoon mate and 25-30 game leg saver for Soriano. Surely you are not advocating Reed Johnson for that job are you Rob? Make the Cedeno/Lopez deal and you are covered all around.
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fair enough
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Aaron B,
Once again, you're love for all things Murton cloud your baseball talent judgement. My point is that Ward is the only LH bat on the bench when Pie/Fukudome start. As already pointed out, DeRosa can play RF when a RH bat is needed there a helluva lot better than Murton (an absolute butcher in the OF). Fontenot and Ward give Lou 2 LH bats for PH duties.
Without another deal (which very likely will happen before Opening Day), the bench will likely be:
Blanco, c
Ward, 1b/LH PH
Fontenot, 2b/LH PH (SS in absolute emergency)
Cedeno, ss/2b
R. Johnson, CF/RF/LF
DeRosa is still the 'super-sub' for 3B and RF with capable options at 2B when he isn't playing there.
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# Re: Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
Submitted by djchi on Tue, 03/25/2008 - 5:14pm.
I have a question...Johnson had a relatively large contract with the Blue Jays, no? And since he was released, they're on the hook for most of it, correct?
So if the Cubs go to arbitration, are they responsible for offering him 80% of his Blue Jays salary at minimum? If so, then he wouldn't be that cheap. Or am I missing something?
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DJCHI: Because Reed Johnson's contract was not guaranteed and because the Blue Jays released him prior to March 28th, they only owed him 45 days pay (1/4 of his 2008 salary, or just a bit over $800K). So it's not surprising that Johnson wanted more than the MLB minumim to sign with the Cubs.
In fact, he PROBABLY thought he deserved $2.4M (the remainder left on the table from his $3.25M 2008 contract with TOR), but after considering his options, he apparently decided to settle for half a loaf.
As far as what the minimum the Cubs would have to offer Johnson after the season if they tender him a contract (with a salary arbitration option), it would be 80% of his Cubs salary from 2008. Once he was released by Toronto, that contract became incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial for salary arbitration purposes post '08. He was a free-agent when he signed with the Cubs, and the fact that the Blue Jays had to pay him a severance when they released him doesn't apply to post-2008 .
And the Cubs could non-tender him on 12/12 and then try to sign him for less money where the 20% maximum cut rule would not apply.
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Thanks!
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haven't seen it mentioned in here so someone might as well say it...
he's got a legit arm. he's not ichiro...he's definately not juan pierre...
then again even as a late-inning replacement he's not replacing any arm in the OF that's weak (unless there's murton/d.ward out there).
still...the cubs got their marlon byrd/jay payton/whatever and didn't have to give up anything anyone cares about except (maybe) a roster spot.