Bloggers and Journalists, Part II

Goat Riders of the Apocalypse held a terrific roundtable concerning the relationship between sports bloggers and sports journalists earlier this month, featuring Paul Sullivan, Bruce Miles, Will Carroll and Paul Lukas.

GROTA invited me, Al Yellon, Joe Aiello, and Chuck Gitles of Bleed Cubbie Blue, The View from the Bleachers, and Ivy Chat, respectively, to contribute to the follow-up round table, which you can now read, here. It's more serious than entertaining, but I have to say, I was pretty proud of these two lines:

Looking for good reporting in the sports blogosphere is like when you played spin the bottle with the high school band: You might get the hot saxophonist, but more likely you get stuck with one of the woodwinds.

and

Regarding some of Paul Sullivan’s comments: I’ve already discussed at length his remark about how “most newspaper reporters have to actually go to college and get a degree” and pay their dues, and so forth.

But I wonder if Paul is aware that he split an infinitive in his sentence about the necessity of getting a college degree? ~grin~

My previous TCR commentary on the state of sports blogs and sports journalism can be found here.

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Journalism major >

damned ghetto html

Journalism is not English.

who cares

1st - Great Job Trans, like always

2nd - I didn't think it was possible, but I actually dislike Paul Sullivan even more than I did 10 minutes ago. What a jackass

OMG! Dayn Perry mildly optimistic about the Cubs:

"The Cubs may have the NL’s most powerful lineup (Alfonso Soriano, Aramis Ramirez and Derrek Lee should combine for 100-plus homers), but the rotation behind Carlos Zambrano will be the key. In particular, Jason Marquis and Wade Miller need to defy expectations. It’s a weak division, so the Cubs have a very real shot at the post-season. "

He must have been in Vegas earlier in the week.

Has Z signed yet?

paul sulivan wrote a damn long overdue article on the state of the cubs/fans and "friendly confines"

this is an article ive been waiting to read for a while now...

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sport...

the SI baseball preview has Daisuke on the Cover (very predictable) with the title Fever Pitch.

they predict the NL Central: StL, Cubs, Brewers, Astros, Pirates, Reds

Playoffs: Mets over StL; Dodgers over Braves (wild card)
Yankees over Indians; Angels over Red Sox (wild card)
NLCS: Dodgers over Mets
ALCS: Angels over Yankees
WS: Angels over Dodgers

Basically I'm pretty happy to fly under the SI radar. Let the season begin already. Mets/Cards tomorrow night.

angels vs. dodgers has to be the most trendy offseason baseball WS prediction.

the ESPN guys have been wearing out the love of both teams recently.

hell, i like both team's chances to be competitors, but the hype is getting large all over.

did people notice that boston is fielding a hell of a team or something?

did people NOT notice that boston....blah blah blah

RORY:

I kind of care. I think most people do.

Well, I don't comment too often on here, but I read you guys every day. Just wanted to say GO Cubs! before the season started! Also, if you guys are on an online chat thing, please link to it and I'll make sure to hop on there when I get the chance. Anyways, GO Cubs GO....Let's win this frickin' thing!!!!!

#5 e-man:
“The Cubs may have the NL’s most powerful lineup (Alfonso Soriano, Aramis Ramirez and Derrek Lee should combine for 100-plus homers), but the rotation behind Carlos Zambrano will be the key"

hence, the 2007 marketing slogan:
"hill, z, and lilly then drink yourself silly".

and, with all prior apologies to ocsar wilde and bruce miles,

"the difference between journalists and bloggers is that journalists are un-readable whilst bloggers are un-read".

I almost hate to bring up that a saxophone is also a woodwind instrument. I also hate to bring up that the girls that most guys go for are the flute players (although, to be fair, the occasional trumpet player gets a fair amount of attention).

Is douche-bag 1 word, or 2? Or is it just safer to use the hyphen?

Kurtis - Yes, I should have been smarter than that, I've always known they were a woodwind, but in my own mind, I always categorized them separately.

And yeah, Trumpet players could get attention. But at my school, the pecking order was saxaphonists, trumpet players, and the rest of the woodwinds after that...

And no, I'm not normally this much of a cavalier jerk about such things. But I thought it was a decent line

BJS - I always thought it was one word. Ask Bruce Miles. (not because he is one, far from it; but because for anyone who reads the original article, he brings it up.)

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  • Boras is 63, maybe he'll be retired or dead by the time Bryant, Russell, Almora, Albertos all hit free agency. Doubt he will be before Jake hits there though.

    cubbies.4ever 2 hours 1 min ago view
  • Interesting choices when guys get healthy.

    LaStella, Fowler & Soler replace Coghlan, Almora and Sczcur? I assume they don't want Almora to sit.

    Despite MIggy's demise, I assume they keep him around to mentor Contreras?

    billybucks 3 hours 15 min ago view
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    billybucks 4 hours 26 min ago view
  • oh yeah...thanks joe/billy.

    poor outing, still got the win, go cubs.

    crunch 5 hours 4 min ago view
  • Although it felt like it, Jake didn't lose to them -- he got the W. (Assuming you are referring to Monday's game)

    billybucks 6 hours 45 min ago view
  • Arrieta didn't lose to the Reds. He got the win -- he just didn't pitch like we expect him to.

    JoePepitone 6 hours 46 min ago view
  • almora's 1st HR!

    crunch 6 hours 53 min ago view
  • it's not like this CIN team is lost-cause horrible, but aside from defense and power this is a truly horrible team.

    kinda crazy arrieta lost to them and yesterday's game had to go 15 innings for the cubs win.

    crunch 7 hours 9 min ago view
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    At least it didn't turn into a Schwarber/Fowler situation. Hamilton and Duvall are both pretty important youngish players for the Reds.

    Charlie 7 hours 17 min ago view
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    crunch 7 hours 36 min ago view
  • After last night, an inside-the-park HR seems kind of run-of-the-mill somehow.

    Sounds bad for Hamilton. Hope he's okay--listening on the radio.

    Brick 7 hours 53 min ago view
  • SHOW ME THE MONEY:  Jose Albertos has signed with Mega-Agent Scott Boras.

    Albertos has already received his signing bonus and won't see any additional significant money until he reaches the big leagues,  so this is a long-term investment for the Boras Corporation.  

    Arizona Phil 7 hours 59 min ago view
  • I am glad Joe is managing this team and not Old and Blue!

    Hagsag 10 hours 21 min ago view
  • Baez had Maddon's ass last night. I didn't hear the reason for taking Contreras out last night but whatever game management thingy it was, you don't take out your second hottest hitter. Or is he third? Anyway, you don't take him out. The guy can probably play anywhere in the field, anyway. Did anybody see that nice catch in left he made? I don't think he got a late start on that, just tracked it damn well for a catcher.

    Old and Blue 12 hours 17 min ago view
  • Per Fangraphs...

    Bryant took over NL lead in WAR after yesterday's effort. 3.9. Rizzo's at 2.8 and 8th in the league. Rizzo actually with better offensive numbers (161 wRC+ versus 146 for Bryant), but Bryant gets a good bump because of defense and position(s) played.

    Fowler with a 2.8 WAR as well (9th), Zobrist with a 2.7 (14th).

    M. Carpenter leads NL with 163 wRC+ just ahead of Rizzo who is 2nd.

    Rob G. 18 hours 19 min ago view
  • Amen

    jacos 19 hours 57 min ago view