Well That Was a Shame

Rich Hill looked like he had some dominating stuff yesterday, striking out 10 batters in 5 innings, but he also got touched for three homers and Mother Nature took care of the rest, washing out the game before the offense could get Hill off the hook. Oh well, they all can't be great. Today Z hits the mound, on some sort of personal quest to try and win the Cy Young. A fool's quest it seems. He's 5th in the NL in Win Shares among starting pitchers, 7th by VORP, 5th in ERA and he's dropped to 4th in K's because of his time missed. He is 2nd in wins and only one win shy of being tied for the league, but that's because for whatever reason the Cubs offense decides to perform when he pitches (6th best run support in the league). Of course, some of that could be because of Z's presence in the lineup itself. Eight lousy games left! GAME ONE HUNDRED-FIFTY-FIVE IN-GAME DISCUSSION THREAD [PARACHAT] CHICAGO CUBS (62-92 (Draft) 3rd - 3.5 GB) AT CINCINNATI REDS (75-78 (Div) 2nd - 5.5 GB; (WC) 3rd - 5.5 GB) The Great American Home Run Park, 6:10 pm CDT Weather: TV: WGN Radio: WGN, XM 186
Kyle Lohse, RHP (NL Only) 2-4, 4.33 ERA, 54 IP 43 K, 15 BB, 5 HR 288/335/418 againstCarlos Zambrano, RHP 15-6, 3.38 ERA, 200 IP 194 K, 108 BB, 19 HR 210/318/356 against

*Juan Pierre, CF Ryan Theriot, 2B Aramis Ramirez, 3B Matt Murton, LF #Angel Pagan, RF John Mabry, 1B Henry Blanco, C Ronny Cedeno, SS #Carlos Zambrano, P *Dewayne Wise, CF *Scott Hatteberg, 1B Edwin Encarnacion, 3B Adam Dunn, LF #Javier Valentin, C *Todd Hollandsworth, RF Brandon Phillips, SS #Ray Olmedo, 2B Kyle Lohse, P

Cubs vs. Lohse: No Cubs with more than 10 AB'sReds vs. Zambrano: Adam Dunn: 7-34, 206/364/559, 10 K, 9 BB, 4 HR Jason LaRue: 4-24, 167/231/208, 11 K, 0 BB Royce Clayton: 4-19, 211/250/368 Rich Aurilia: 4-14, 286/375/286 Scott Hatteberg: 4-13, 308/526/615, 2 K, 6 BB, 1 HR Edwin Encarnacion: 3-10, 300/417/600, 1 HR
I assume something is wrong with Jacque Jones. What the hell is wrong with Dusty to start Mabry over Moore?

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Why don't Pitching Coaches make good Managers? It seems to me guys like Dave Duncan of the Cardinals and the former picching coach of the Atlanta Braves (?) were without peer. Why can't someone like Dave Duncan be a manager on say a young pitching staff like the Cubs. I mean if he can work magic as he has for the Cardinals why cant he do it for the Cubs.

Why can't Quaid(sp?) step up? The kids have all performed for him? Also WHY ISN'T MOORE playing instead of Mabry????You gotta love Dusty's line-up management.

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BTW Manny: you are right about my previous post.

Why can't Quaid(sp?) step up? The kids have all performed for him? Also WHY ISN'T MOORE playing instead of Mabry????You gotta love Dusty's line-up management.

scooterÆ

BTW Manny: you are right about my previous post.

J. Jones wife gave birth to a child. He'll join the team on Monday.

This is depressing from the Paul Sullivan article about whether Ramirez is staying or going...

Scott Moore is the only third-base prospect in the system who could step in, meaning the Cubs likely would have to sign or trade for a replacement.

Moore is hitting .318 in 22 at-bats and hasn't played enough to get a fair evaluation.

"He hasn't had enough at-bats yet, plus the league doesn't know him yet," Baker said. "He did hit .275 at Double A. I've always liked what I've seen of him, but there's more to this game than just hitting. There's baserunning, fielding, judgment plays. Ö I like what I've seen, big-time. Is he ready to be here today? I don't know that. You'd like to see a guy have more success in the minor leagues."

I don't know, when would be a good time to get him more AB's? We are 29 games under .500, Lee is out again, and no one knows if Ramirez is staying or going. Gee wouldn't it be nice to find out what Scott Moore could do with the bat playing everday the rest of the season? Apparently looking towards the future with this franchise is playing Blanco and Mabry at 1b instead.

A franchise with a clue would be playing Moore at 1b not playing musical chairs between a veteran catcher who has barely played the position and a pinch hitter hitting near .200.

Meanwhile, Arizona left fielder Luis Gonzalez told a suburban Phoenix paper the Cubs and White Sox would be two teams he would be interested in signing with this winter

Thanks Gonzo, but no thanks. Your productive years are over.

So Bonds hit his 26th HR this year tonight. That HR broke Hank Aaron's NL record for most HR's. Bonds is at 734 now with 21 left to tie Aaron. As long as he stays healthy and is playing baseball next year, it appears he will break the record. Should be an interesting offseason to see what he does.

*Should be an interesting offseason to see what he [Bonds] does.*

He probably won't hit many home runs in the offseason, and if he does, they won't count toward his major league totals.

*Luis Gonzalez told a suburban Phoenix paper the Cubs and White Sox would be two teams he would be interested in signing with this winter*

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Right. Only if they go back to letting everyone do roids scot-free with no testing.

*J. Jones wife gave birth to A child.*

Hopefully HIS child...otherwise he'd look a bit stupid taking the time off to go and hang out.

*Why don't Pitching Coaches make good Managers?*

Roger Craig was pretty successful, but I'm guessing that players probably get sick of stupid advice like "Hey, don't throw this guy a fastball" or "Hey, just throw strikes", extrapolated into bigger, grander strategic advice like "Hey, just win some games" or "Hey, just score more runs than the other team on a consistant basis".

Couple notes:

Ramirez on coming back with the Cubs: "I don't know yet," Ramirez said. "We've still got eight games left, and we've got to play through and see what happens. I don't know what's going to happen. This is business, and you never know what can happen," Ramirez said. "I can't predict what's going to happen. I don't know what the front office is thinking." -Cubs.com

Hendry on Baker:
"It's the same as I told everyone in July, and that's that I'll decide what's in the interest of the organization in the first week after the season," Hendry said. "That hasn't changed. I'll do what I feel is in the best interest of the organization, and that obviously encompasses a lot of things and there's no need to get more specific than that," Hendry said. "You do what's in the best interests of the Chicago Cubs and not what's in the best interest of any individual, including myself." -Cubs.com

When asked if he has made decision on Baker yet:
"Not necessarily," Hendry said. -Cubs.com

You have to figure Dusty won't be coming back, but I wonder how that figures in to guys like Aramis. I know Dusty is a player's manager and they all appear to like him; That's what they're supposed to do and say. Supposing that it's genuine, would Aramis be more inclined to return to Chicago if Dusty stayed?

Ryno:
"Supposing that it's genuine, would Aramis be more inclined to return to Chicago if Dusty stayed?"

I am sure it is genuine, but when it comes down to it, if Hendry throws the right money at him, ARAM will resign. If Hendry doesn't offer him an average of at least $13 million per over 4-5 years, ARAM will test FA. I am sure both ARAM and Pierre would want Baker back, but for the right amount of money I am sure they would play for anyone (ask Furcal).

NO, that was uncalled for. Not funny.

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  • That's a hell of a first impression by Montgomery. Brian Cashman having a good laugh on that debut.

    Eric S 5 hours 21 min ago view
  • ...and it's a 3 run homer.

    hey, vogelbomb had a HR on his 1st game with SEA AAA, too!

    crunch 5 hours 41 min ago view
  • montgomery comes on with men on 1st/2nd, 2 out, in the 8th.

    crunch 5 hours 43 min ago view
  • from rotoworld...

    "Tommy Stokke of FanRag Sports reports Chris Sale was sent home from U.S. Cellular Field on Saturday after cutting up throwback jerseys that he did not want to wear.

    crunch 5 hours 50 min ago view
  • I thought the same. It'd be great luck to face these non-contenders after the trade deadline.

    Charlie 7 hours 33 min ago view
  • ...why isn't j.lucroy playing for TEX yet?

    :(

    2r HR on a 12-pitch AB.

    crunch 8 hours 7 min ago view
  • nathan to join the cubs tomorrow.

    crunch 8 hours 41 min ago view
  • Wow in deed.

    Rob Richardson 8 hours 45 min ago view
  • FOX Sports @MLBONFOX
    Chris Sale was scratched from tonight's scheduled start due to a clubhouse incident before the game

    ...wow

    he was sent home by the team, too. the wsox released a press statement and everything. they stated it was non-physical in nature.

    crunch 8 hours 50 min ago view
  • He was scratched from his start today. No reason given.

    Rob Richardson 8 hours 55 min ago view
  • At the start of the season the book was that he was trying to pitch to more contact so he could stay in the game longer and it seems to be working so far. Contact against is 77.5% this year and it was 70.2% the year before. He averaged 6.7 IP/game last year and so far it's 7 IP/game. His actual pitches per game are only down to 106.1/game from 107.2/game last year but if he's able to go a bit farther into games without throwing more pitches and without giving up more runs that is a good thing.

    johann 9 hours 59 min ago view
  • sale's skills and insane value makes it almost too hard to have a market for the guy...he's got 3/38m owed to him over 3 seasons (2 team options). he could easily pull in 30m/yr if he was on the market as a FA.

    he's throwing a bit differently this season, especially with more sliders and less changeups like earlier in his career, but all his stuff still looks great even if the HRs are a little elevated and the Ks are down.

    crunch 11 hours 54 min ago view
  • Torres, Happ, McKinney, Jimenez, and Candelario for Sale. Deal or no deal?

    "The White Sox are reportedly asking for “five top prospects” for Chris Sale, FanRag Sports’ Jon Heyman reports."

    John Beasley 12 hours 7 min ago view
  • Unless he develops 30+ HR power and keeps his walk rate close to his K rate at the MLB level, he's not going to turn into Prince Fielder. And even if he does turn into Prince Fielder, he's gonna have a short prime. His very limited athleticism is likely to also detract some value from his ability to reach base--I don't buy making an out as being preferable to base clogging, but you'd certainly prefer just about any base runner other than Vogelbach, David Ortiz, etc.

    Charlie 12 hours 38 min ago view
  • seeing as arod has played a total of 27.1 innings of D at 1st/3rd and somehow managed a -0.5 dWAR with his 1 error at 1st and an overall positive total zone rating...he might end up even more in the shitter via the characteristics/flaws/whatever of how some sites determine various WAR values. dWAR doesn't directly lead to a WAR value, but the 2 main entities pushing the most popular variations of WAR sometimes lead to some interesting discrepancies in value.

    crunch 12 hours 53 min ago view
  • I have a lot of faith in Baez that he's going to turn into a more consistent, solid player. It looks like it took him about a half season or so of futility at the plate to figure out he was not talented enough to get away with the crazy approach he had. I think his running game will eventually have a more measured aggression.

    Charlie 16 hours 47 min ago view